Question For The Religious Fundementalists

[nailit]

Would you still love God if you knew he was going to damn you to eternal torment? After all you assert that we are all born sinners and worthy of hell because God is 'righteous' and that's what we deserve.
Seems to me that the religious, for all their talk of loving God, are only loving God because they are afraid of NOT doing so.
Not been flippant here, I'm genuinely interested in why you would want to worship an entity that would torture you for an eternity if you DIDNT love him.
Thanks :-)

[maggiebee]

You need to get a life nailit. Have you nothing better to do on a Saturday night?

[nailit]

Ive got a life thanks Maggie. I'm also intensely curious about the beliefs of others if that's ok with you?
Got anything to contribute?

[mibn2cweus]

Joining the club maggiebee?

[nailit]

A bit ironic isn't it mibs, I post a question on a question and answer site, and someone answers asking if ive got nothing else better to do, ROFL.

[Mamyalynne]

I wish you well with your thread and hope lots of fundamentalists answer.

[Old_Geezer]

Since it isn't the deal, I believe the question is invalid.

One could claim similar for anyone you felt love for, then realised was going to hurt you. Is all love down to fear ?

[nailit]

//hope lots of fundamentalists answer. //
Theland will be along later no doubt Mamy.

//Is all love down to fear//
Seems that religious love is, that's what I'm trying to ascertain...

[nailit]

Why is it invalid O-G?
Its very real to the religious.

[mibn2cweus]

"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

So He . . . is a She!

[nailit]

A lot of primitive cultures worshipped the divine female principle mibs so that makes sense...

[douglas9401]

Only if legs are shaved mibs, take a walk on the wild side. :-)

[anneasquith]

Faith.

[keyplus90]

You said that you were geniunly interested and I believe the first thing to accomplish your wish is to clear your mind and think about everything as it comes. In other words no pre planned mentality and no “I will not agree unless it is what I believe in”.

Now first of all word "fundamental" is wrong. Would you rather have a doctor operating on you who knows fundamentals of operating proceedure or someone who is not aware of it? Perhaps you meant extremist, but still I would not agree with that as this word again depends on how and where you use it.

////After all you assert that we are all born sinners//// That is where I say that you need to study other religions yourselves instead of depending upon a handful of websites. Islam does not believe at all in that and I believe even Bible has verses nullifying this concept. Every human is answerable for his/her own actions. Then in Islam the concept of hell is not “forever”, it is a transitional somewhat like a prison where you go, serve for your bad doings and be released.

OG has already answered your question about whether it is love or fear. I believe every love has a fear factor behind it. Fear of losing that the one you love or the one who loves you.

[Theland]

Simple. I love
God for what He has done for me, and the amazing prospect of not only peace in this life, but peace and joy in His presence after my earthly death. No fear at all.

[vulcan42]

" Then in Islam the concept of hell is not “forever”, it is a transitional somewhat like a prison where you go, serve for your bad doings and be released."
Like every religion, there is always a get out clause. Being religious is no more than holding on to the "get out of jail free" card in Monopoly.

[Theland]

V - you are so wrong.

[vulcan42]

T and you know this, how?

[keyplus90]

////there is always a get out clause.////

Yes, perhaps you are right. Why I believe so?

1 - I believe that One tear of regret (yes, just one) from the eye of someone who has done something wrong could be enough to wipe clean his whole life's sins, wrong doings etc. I call it Allah's blessing and love for his creation.

2 - You would call it a get away claus. I will let you make your own decision and mind.

[Theland]

V - you know it is not? How?

[vulcan42]

Theland, please get out of the playground, you said I am wrong and I asked how do you know. Asking another question in reply just proves you don't know any more than I do.