Are You, Like Me, A Proud Infidel?

[Theland]

Is it not time do you think, that we should brandish and flaunt our status as infidels and send a message to Muslims that Britons are stirring and waking up?

[maggiebee]

Theland, thanks be to God that you are not in any position of power. I think you are a very dangerous man.

[RobNorth]

The latest and most powerful religion yet seen - "shopping" will see off all the fairy tales.
The crowds that once thronged churches can now be seen at IKEA on Sunday mornings. It's just about seen off Christianity and a few others and will get the newer ones eventually.

[vetuste_ennemi]

You, I (both atheists) and the many MaggieBees share a culture, Birdie - good evening, by the way. It's very difficult for any inheritor of the Western tradition who's been brought up with "Love your enemy and bless those who persecute you" (because the Christian God hates the sin but loves the sinner) to understand that a different religious tradition is founded on the contrary principle "Hate your enemy" (because no good Muslim can love those Allah hates).

[vetuste_ennemi]

We somehow need to convince the Maggies that the average imam is not like Dawn French.

[maggiebee]

I lived in Albania for a year which is 70% Muslim, 20% Roman Catholic and 10% Orthodox. I never witnessed persecution of non Muslims in fact the average Albanian couldn't care less what religion you follow.

[Jackdaw33]

When Albania was a communist country under Enver Hoxha all religion was banned and priest etc. were liable to be executed.

[vetuste_ennemi]

And I'm sure that there are excellent examples of tolerant Muslim majority countries. Montenegro? Surinam?

Now order the Muslim world by power and influence.

Saudi Arabia?

Iran?

Erdogan's Turkey? Or choose any index based

[vetuste_ennemi]

...based on any modern standard of decency you care to name.

[vetuste_ennemi]

More poetically described (than Rusk) by two contemporaries as:

"l'appétit vient en mangeant"

and

"As if increase of appetite had grown By what it fed on."

Why are the dhimmis so ready to accede to the demands of the bullies? At this moment, though not in twenty years time, all that needs to be done is decide on a policy of "Stop it!".

[vetuste_ennemi]

As an aside, Birdie, a sad moment:

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/ChatterBank/Question1594695.html i

[vetuste_ennemi]

You probably haven't seen it.

[naomi24]

Maggiebee, the danger emanates from complacency such as yours. As V_E says the average Imam is not Dawn French.

[beso]

VE //the Christian God hates the sin but loves the sinner//

How do you reconcile that with Armageddon and His intention to massacre all those who do not submit to His rule?

[Khandro]

beso; //How do you reconcile that with Armageddon and His intention to massacre all those who do not submit to His rule?//

Where have you heard any Christian espousing that of late, you haven't been listening at the keyhole of your local mosque have you?

[maggiebee]

Agree Jackdaw, a lot of things happened under communist rule - we all know that Enver Hoxha was a great friend of Stalin's. However, Albania is now a democracy and things have changed drastically in the years since Hoxha died. I have worked, lived, eaten and slept in the homes of Albanians and, hand on heart, have never met a more peace loving and hard working people. My (adopted) daughter is a GP and absolutely hates radical Islam. My old boss is an ambassador under Edi Rama's government. He travels the world spreading understanding and making trade deals. He is also the president of the Albanian chapter of People to People International, a world wide organisation spreading peace and understanding between nations.

[naomi24]

^Whoosh!