Self-Fulfilling Prophecy

[mibn2cweus]

Have you ever considered the possibility that by believing in certain prophecies your subsequent behavior influenced by said prophecy may be contributing to if not creating the necessary conditions required for its fulfillment?

If the prophecies you espouse were wreaking havoc and untold misery upon the world making life unbearable for those who refused to promote and contribute to the fulfillment of such prophecies would you still continue on this path in an attempt to add credence to your belief in the promise of an unearned undeserved reward to be fulfilled beyond the grave?

Assuming a pending judgement day, provided you were given the opportunity to speak in your own defense, what would you consider a just retribution for such behavior?

[jim360]

I've no idea, but I'm sure there was a call for more than two commas in that lot. :P

[douglas9401]

To be cast into the deepest pit of hell to burn for all eternity.

Or at least 100 lines.

[Canary42]

A slapped wrist.

[Tilly2]

Is this a sort of 'It's your own fault' thing?

Naughty step?

[mibn2cweus]

//I've no idea, but I'm sure there was a call for more than two commas in that lot. :P//

Or two 'comas' even?

[mibn2cweus]

//Is this a sort of 'It's your own fault' thing?//

I'd call it, "Speaking my own mind." . . . for what it's worth.

[mibn2cweus]

//Naughty step?//

Tilly2 . . . the most merciful.

[Peter Pedant]

foo !
let me give a more reasoned and intellectual answer

yeah dat been around long time - dat has
or a related one

Cicero - de divinatione

Quid vero Caesarem putamus, si divinasset fore ut in eo senatu quem maiore ex parte ipse cooptasset, in curia Pompeia, ante ipsius Pompei sirnulacrum, tot centurionibus suis inspectantibus, a nobilissumis civibus, partim etiam a se omnibus rebus ornatis, trucidatus ita iaceret, ut ad eius corpus non modo amicorum, sed ne servorum quidem quisquam accederet, quo cruciatu animi vitam acturum fuisse?

now think of Caesar - if he had known that in HIS senate, that he had mainly appointed, in the house of pompey, in front of Pompey's statue itself, soliders looking on... betrayed and stabbed ....
in what agony of mind would he have lived his life ?" writes Cicero in jesus knows when

so they sortta be wondering about dat for 2000 years

that is more Cicero wondering how Caesar would have behaved if he had known his frenz were gonna shiv him - rather than the lardy dah of what he would have said....

to be found in a discussion about whether divination worked or not ....he clearly thought it shouldnt

[woofgang]

Having given the OP's question serious consideration, here is my response

[woofgang]

oh poo, try again
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[woofgang]

and again
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[Tilly2]

It still seems to me to be an 'As you sow, so shall you reap' kind of thing.

Maybe I'm being a little bit naive...

[vetuste_ennemi]

The Biblical prophets weren't Mystic Megs, though, were they. They were warning, not predicting: "If you carry on like this, you hussy Israel, Yahweh will send those nasty Assyrians or Babylonians round. And it won't work out too good.". Trying to change behaviour in order to avert the consequences caused by Divine displeasure.

Same thing with the tragic Cassandra wasn't it?

[atalanta]

Rotten Latin, that, and even worse translation, PP.
What if the warnings did tell Caesar to expect to be assassinated ? He might well have deliberately chosen death with glory, rather than a continuing series of tangled and failing alliances and revolts. "Go now, and your name will live forever" or " hang around until everyone is tired of you, and fade away into obscurity." ? Someone with a personality like Caesar's, and a belief in the gods, might well have welcomed such a choice.

[Theland]

My belief in Bible prophecy dictates that I try my best to follow the Lord Jesus Christ and obey Him.
That precludes doing anything, if I was in a position to do so, to bring about any of the prophecies.
The prophecies are just that, a foretelling of what will be, and not an invitation to act in any way contrary to scripture, in order to hasten the prophetic fulfilment.

[Theland]

A just retribution for such behaviour would be entirely scriptural. To do ones own will as opposed to Gods will, means God will give you over to your own will, where self is central to your desires as opposed to desiring a personal relationship with Him.
You might find yourself cut off from a loving relationship with God forever, and what could be worse than that?

[Jackdaw33]

Don't mention Cicero to me. When I was doing A level Latin he was the bane of my life. The received wisdom at the time was that the sun shone out of his aris and if you didn't write like Cicero then you were no good. I had many a run-in with my Latin master, who would would mark me down because, 'Cicero wouldn't have put it like that'. My reply was that the only problem with Cicero was that his assassins were 30 years too late in catching up with him, else we would have been spared a lot of grief.

[mibn2cweus]

//The prophecies are just that, a foretelling of what will be, and not an invitation to act in any way contrary to scripture, in order to hasten the prophetic fulfilment.//

Heaven forbid anyone should act in any way contrary to scripture, in order to hasten the fulfillment of what the scriptures foretell will be . . . before it's time.

[naomi24]

Theland, //God will give you over to your own will, where self is central to your desires as opposed to desiring a personal relationship with Him.

Your wish for a personal relationship with your God indicates that ‘self’ is central to your desires.

//You might find yourself cut off from a loving relationship with God forever, and what could be worse than that?//

Again, an entirely selfish notion.

[Theland]

Duh! How?