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Origin Of Information.
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I believe all information originates in a mind.
If you disagree with this, any examples?
If you disagree with this, any examples?
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Information does not originate in the mind. It does not pop there from no where, suddenly appear to be broadcast by the owner of the mind.
Information is a set of observations of the physical world. The Brain analyses different bits of observations and tries to make sense of them. The ability to compile things you have seen, and then work out a possible meaning of it, is where knowledge comes from. If other people hear that knowledge, and agree with the reasoning behind the idea, then it will become accepted and repeated.
Over time though, new observations will mean that an old accepted idea my have to change, due to the new data.
Information is a set of observations of the physical world. The Brain analyses different bits of observations and tries to make sense of them. The ability to compile things you have seen, and then work out a possible meaning of it, is where knowledge comes from. If other people hear that knowledge, and agree with the reasoning behind the idea, then it will become accepted and repeated.
Over time though, new observations will mean that an old accepted idea my have to change, due to the new data.
Moses had look at his environment, and concocted a theory:
// God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. //
It seem to explain things, and people were happy to accept the idea for thousands of years.
And then we were able to fly to the heavens and observe new data and work out the cosmology of our universe. And poor old Moses ideas had to be ditched and new ones replaced it.
// God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. //
It seem to explain things, and people were happy to accept the idea for thousands of years.
And then we were able to fly to the heavens and observe new data and work out the cosmology of our universe. And poor old Moses ideas had to be ditched and new ones replaced it.
Interestingly, the Buddhist position on the mind/body is similar.
All things come from the mind, and thus ‘facts’ can only come from the mind. A rock might be a rock, but until a ‘mind’ sees and comprehends its ‘rockness’, it is nothing.
A positive aspect of this comes in times of adversity, when you realize that you are in charge of your problems. You can’t “think pain away”, but you can perhaps control your response to it.
All things come from the mind, and thus ‘facts’ can only come from the mind. A rock might be a rock, but until a ‘mind’ sees and comprehends its ‘rockness’, it is nothing.
A positive aspect of this comes in times of adversity, when you realize that you are in charge of your problems. You can’t “think pain away”, but you can perhaps control your response to it.
pixie the mind in a coma is one of the damaged ones I was thinking of....and I am not sure that amoebas have minds, or brains. Since no one will define information...I will suggest that fot the purposes of this discussion, Information may be defined as "an external stimulus which is perceived by one or more of the senses and processed by the brain.....In fact I can't think of a single example of imformation, as I have defined it, that originates in a mind or a brain.
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