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Not sure if this is the right section of answerbank but I watched this really captivating show on Netflix today called “Bob Lazar – Area 51 and The Flying Saucers”.
Would defo recommend if you are into alien conspiracy stuff. I’ve heard an interview with Bob Lazar before on the Joe Rogan podcast and was fascinated by the dude.
I’ll give a brief background. Bob was a physicist who claims to have worked on alien tech at Area 51 during the 80’s. He was a whisleblower and has basically had his life ruined since going public – so has almost everyone associated with him. During the documentary the FBI show up at his home and start going through his stuff. I found some of his claims compelling, although his whole past including education records have been deleted.
Does anyone have any thoughts about Area 51 or governments concealing information about alien contact?
Tim
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Would defo recommend if you are into alien conspiracy stuff. I’ve heard an interview with Bob Lazar before on the Joe Rogan podcast and was fascinated by the dude.
I’ll give a brief background. Bob was a physicist who claims to have worked on alien tech at Area 51 during the 80’s. He was a whisleblower and has basically had his life ruined since going public – so has almost everyone associated with him. During the documentary the FBI show up at his home and start going through his stuff. I found some of his claims compelling, although his whole past including education records have been deleted.
Does anyone have any thoughts about Area 51 or governments concealing information about alien contact?
Tim
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sparkly: "I once read that radio signals from Jodrell Bank took over 50 years and still not reach the outskirts of our galaxy." - the galaxy is 53000 light years across, it's not got out of our local star cluster yet. The first radio transmission is little over 100 years old that's not reached the end of the street yet in galactic terms.
Just wondering; are occupants of flying saucers or workers of Area 51 particularly religious or spiritual ?
Does the same laws and fundamental constants and variables apply throughout the universe ? Do they change over apparent time ? Is it possible to go at warp speed and faster, even if it presently seems unlikely ? Was the Big Bang just a local phenomenon and the true universe so great that elsewhere they're on their own local Big Bang umpteenth generation stars ? Maybe there are other dimensions where advanced civilisations are opting not to break through to here. Who knows ? Everything seems to turn out more fantastic than at any point where we think or thought we had a handle on it.
Does the same laws and fundamental constants and variables apply throughout the universe ? Do they change over apparent time ? Is it possible to go at warp speed and faster, even if it presently seems unlikely ? Was the Big Bang just a local phenomenon and the true universe so great that elsewhere they're on their own local Big Bang umpteenth generation stars ? Maybe there are other dimensions where advanced civilisations are opting not to break through to here. Who knows ? Everything seems to turn out more fantastic than at any point where we think or thought we had a handle on it.
Nomi, that post is simply explaining the 2 gen star issue and why any alien culture will have been around more or less the same time as our own. No where did I say I know wverything, I simply explained what I do know and why many, on this subject, proceed from ignorance. That fact is that most of the life of the universe so far has been spent generating the elements that we ere composed of.
OG; "Does the same laws and fundamental constants and variables apply throughout the universe ?" - yes
"Do they change over apparent time ?" - no
"Is it possible to go at warp speed and faster, even if it presently seems unlikely ?" - maybe by taking short cuts, folding space, wormholes etc, all very theoretical.
"Was the Big Bang just a local phenomenon and the true universe so great that elsewhere they're on their own local Big Bang umpteenth generation stars ?" no
"Maybe there are other dimensions where advanced civilisations are opting not to break through to here. Who knows ?" - possibly, string theory suggest 13 dimensions but again all very theoretical.
"Everything seems to turn out more fantastic than at any point where we think or thought we had a handle on it. " - no doubt there are many new discoveries awaiting us but due to the 2nd gen star issue aliens will not be that much different in advancement than us.
"Do they change over apparent time ?" - no
"Is it possible to go at warp speed and faster, even if it presently seems unlikely ?" - maybe by taking short cuts, folding space, wormholes etc, all very theoretical.
"Was the Big Bang just a local phenomenon and the true universe so great that elsewhere they're on their own local Big Bang umpteenth generation stars ?" no
"Maybe there are other dimensions where advanced civilisations are opting not to break through to here. Who knows ?" - possibly, string theory suggest 13 dimensions but again all very theoretical.
"Everything seems to turn out more fantastic than at any point where we think or thought we had a handle on it. " - no doubt there are many new discoveries awaiting us but due to the 2nd gen star issue aliens will not be that much different in advancement than us.
The thing is Sparkly, other than our own sun our nearest star is about 4.2 light years distant. Theoretically speaking travelling at half the speed of light, visitors from that solar system could reach us in about 8 years – so given the capability of travelling at that sort of speed, not beyond the realms of possibility. Just because distances are vast it doesn’t follow that any potential life out there is always going to be hundreds of millions of light years away. It may be just up the road – so to speak.
TTT, // "Does the same laws and fundamental constants and variables apply throughout the universe ?" – yes//
A more appropriate answer to that would be 'we don’t know' - because we don't.
//due to the 2nd gen star issue aliens will not be that much different in advancement than us.//
That assumes that the occupants of all other inhabited planets appeared at exactly the same time as us and advanced at the same rate, but that isn’t necessarily true. Even 5 or 10 thousand years – a drop in the ocean when we’re talking billions – would be very significant indeed. Imagine where our technology will have taken us in 5 or 10 thousand years – or even in 500 or one thousand years.
I don’t believe anyone should be giving definitive answers to those questions. Where the science of space is concerned we are mere infants. I think you need to broaden your outlook and reach for the stars, TTT. ;o)
TTT, // "Does the same laws and fundamental constants and variables apply throughout the universe ?" – yes//
A more appropriate answer to that would be 'we don’t know' - because we don't.
//due to the 2nd gen star issue aliens will not be that much different in advancement than us.//
That assumes that the occupants of all other inhabited planets appeared at exactly the same time as us and advanced at the same rate, but that isn’t necessarily true. Even 5 or 10 thousand years – a drop in the ocean when we’re talking billions – would be very significant indeed. Imagine where our technology will have taken us in 5 or 10 thousand years – or even in 500 or one thousand years.
I don’t believe anyone should be giving definitive answers to those questions. Where the science of space is concerned we are mere infants. I think you need to broaden your outlook and reach for the stars, TTT. ;o)
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