Atheism, Agnosticism, Belief.

[Theland]

Nine and a half minutes. Very interesting.
Presented by Dinesh D'Souza, featuring Neo de Grasses Tyson.

https://youtu.be/jYi7yHeKBEI

[archibaldy]

I think the most striking illustration of evolution is that of dinosaurs into the birds we have today.

[Theland]

What an s axing coincidence that so many experts should all come together on one little insignificant website!

[Theland]

Amazing

[Theland]

Archbaldy - I did read somewhere that bird fossils had been found in earlier strata than that containing dinosaur fossils.
The fossil record is dubious.

[pixie374]

It's not about fossils! Do you think neanderthals existed, or not?
I am certainly no expert on evolution. It's interesting though, and I hoped an expert might show up.
You seem to be the biggest expert, as you apparently know how all science is wrong... although you won't actually prove why.

[Theland]

Maybe Neanderthals come into our category. Kind.
What I do know is our relationship to God.
Nothing else matters.
And if it doesn't matter to you, then that's sad.

[Theland]

I never said all science is wrong.

[pixie374]

Nice sidestep... why would it matter to me? You tell us on a daily basis how irrational it is...

[pixie374]

Evolution, theland... you aren't daft.

[Mozz71]

You sure about that Pixie? ;-)

[pixie374]

Yes, it is usually deliberate avoidance of answering. However, he isn't well just now, so I'm letting him off...

[Theland]

Pre humans?
I don't know.
I think the first humans became self conscious and God conscious.

[archibaldy]

Theland: "bird fossils had been found in earlier strata than that containing dinosaur fossils"

Correct there has been. Here is a good example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protopteryx

How does that disprove evolution? Only one branch of dinosaurs evolved into birds, not all of them.

[Theland]

Here's a German paleontologist and museum curator who understands the subject far better than I, who dismissed evolution after reading the flawed evidence for it and accepting Intelligent Design.

https://youtu.be/fqiXgtDdEwM

[archibaldy]

^^ I think you may have posted a link to the wrong video because that one does not mention the birds/dinosaur fossil strata subject you originally raised.

[Theland]

Archbaldy - no, the link deals with evolution generally.

[archibaldy]

So do have any links about the specific point you raised about the bird/dinosaur fossil record and why it throws doubt on evolution?

[Theland]

Archbaldy - No I don't, and its too time consuming for me to find it.

[archibaldy]

Yes I should imagine it’s quite hard to find.

[Theland]

The link above is all embracing.