Have You Really Thought It Through

[nailit]

//https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Society-and-Culture/Question1748115-2.html//
On the above thread, Khandro accuses me of been 'inane'

//neveracrossword: You accuse locusts of not 'debating & discussing'. Just take a look above at some of the inane comments (about toilet rolls etc.) from the pagans & you might see why he retreats to his beloved bible//

I was actually been deadly serious. Have you thought it through?
JW doctrine is that man will live on Earth forever in paradise.
How????
Will man eat (and therefore deficate & require toilet paper....manufactured by who?}
Will there be factories to produce such stuff?

Will women still menstrate? (and therefor require sanitry products) where will these come from?
(unless there are now sexless marriagies, and women magically cease to have a cycle and men magically cease to produce sperm,,,so no need for men to have testicles or women to have a womb I guess??)

All JW literature shows Humans dressed in clothes, where the hell will these be manufactured?
(Primark)?
Or perhaps God himself will sow us all some fig leaves together?
And we wont need the gents/ladies anymore because we wont eat or drink?

[nailit]

All JW literature shows loving families, cuddling animals (interestingly not cuddling T-Rex's) in a wonderful new world.

They dont show God burning up their unbeliever kids or parents (or any other loved ones) at Armeggedon.
Never explain either how this ''perfect world'' will work.
Or show any Dino's sharing their life with man.
(At least Hovind & Ham tried)

[Theland]

I think you need to take a chill pill.
You're overwrought again :-)

[davebro]

Calm down!

People defecated, menstruated, clothed themselves, etc. before cloth and paper were ever invented. History dictates we will cope with whatever happens until it's so catastrophic that we can't!

[nailit]

//You're overwrought again :-)//
No Im not, Dont be presumptous.

[alavahalf]

It was possibly a typo on Khandro's behalf .. he missed the 's' .. ;-)

[Atheist]

Nailit is trying to come to terms with people who peddle unsubstantiated worldviews. He poses questions which I presume are aimed at making them think about what they are saying. I think he is doomed to failure because they are not able to respond rationally and objectively about what they post here. Why can't people answer his questions with a bit of respect and logic instead of being rude to him?

[Mamyalynne]

I have thought about it, I'm perfectly content to wait and see.

[davebro]

Atheist - I don't think anyone is being rude - except you!

[Atheist]

Sorry, Dave, I try not to be rude. Maybe you're overwrought again; better take a chill pill.

[Theland]

Mamyas response seems very sensible.

[davebro]

"Sorry, Dave, I try not to be rude. Maybe you're overwrought again; better take a chill pill."

Waddya mean again? I'm always overwrought & the pills don't help much!

[nailit]

//Nailit is trying to come to terms with people who peddle unsubstantiated worldviews//
Absolutely am.
Just dont get how the JW paradise on Earth works?
All their literature shows clothed people interacting with lions, wolves, etc on a vegetarian diet etc, and yet not one has explained to me where the hell did their clothes come from or even why the need to wear clothes in a 'perfect world'?
My references to sanitation were just as valid.
If you eat and drink then you deficate and urinate.
Are you going to do it in the woods or what?

If you believe in a spiritual paradigm, theres no need for such mundane activities, but if you believe in the BODILY ressurection there is.
And Id like to know the answers please.
Im a seeker (As ive been told many times by the people that wish to question my asking questions).

If you believe in a SPIRITUAL existance then I would like to know, why the hell do we have a corruptable body to begin with?
Why not just make us all spirits to begin with?

[Theland]

Nailit, no matter how valid you believe your questions, you could try posing them in a gentler, kinder way.
Many believers struggle with the fine details, but they too are on a journey, and you should try encouraging them to think more instead of shooting them down in flames.
Just a thought.

[mibn2cweus]

//...down in flames.//

The unbeliever's eternal destiny . . . so I've been informed -
https://thirdmill.org/magazine/article.asp/link/ic_herendeen%5Eic_herendeen.EternalDestiny.html/at/The%20Eternal%20Destiny%20of%20the%20Unsaved

[Atheist]

I. C. Herendeen seems to me to be a complete nutter who peddles his asertions with no supporting evidence other than - this is what is written in the bible.
He is obsessed with the evilness of 'man' and also the evilness of 'god'. A compete perversion of the inherent mix of decency and non-decency which is found in us human animals.
God is a man-made creation and so reflects us. I don't understand how people can be so thick as not to realise this.

[fiveleaves]

JW literature is a nonsense. It is a cult dreamt up in the 1870's and has nothing to do with Christianity and the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If you were to peruse Watchtower magazines from 1974 they were confidently prophesising the end of the world in 1975.
The Bible says that God will create a new Heaven and a new Earth. Christians will live with God on Earth. They will have perfect bodies ,so the scatological concerns of Nailit are absolute nonsense

[Atheist]

fiveleaves '...they will have perfect bodies...'
Bodies are made of flesh and blood. They bleed when you prick them. They spill seed when you stimulate them. They feel pain and sorrow when you insult them.
A perfect body, in your terms, wouldn't really be a body at all, would it?

[Atheist]

fiveleaves. '...The Bible says that God will create a new Heaven and a new Earth. Christians will live with God on Earth. ...'
But we know that the Earth will not exist forever; this planet is destined to the same fate as the rest of the universe. You really ought to read more science and less fantasy.

[Atheist]

fiveleaves. If 'Christians will live with God on Earth...' where will everybody fit? Is there a limit on the number of christians who will be queuing to get in? Will all the other religions and non-religious be condemned to eternal punishment for not realising the truth? Anyway, god sounds bloody enormous, so will there be room for him as well as the christians?
I'm asking questions which to me seem quite reasonable. Have you any replies, or have you decided not to consider such issues?

[fiveleaves]

Atheist, the whole universe will be renewed at the end of time.
I said God will create a new Earth. It doesn't have to be the same size as the present Earth!