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If the Salvation Army come round my pub selling the War Cry, is it all right for me to go round to their prayer meeting and collect for the pub trip?
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...... to beg people who "have" to spare a thought for the "have nots". What's wrong with that?
If God provided three squares a day at the drop of a prayer, people would flock to Him in droves, for the wrong reasons.
As in the New Testament, Jesus fed some people, and healed some people, but not all.
Why?
Because He was more concerned that their relationship with God was based on faith and obedience, not material things.
Faith and obedience involves sharing if we can, with those who have less than us. That helps establish Gods kingdom in the here and now, through acts of selflessness, as the SA do.
If God provided three squares a day at the drop of a prayer, people would flock to Him in droves, for the wrong reasons.
As in the New Testament, Jesus fed some people, and healed some people, but not all.
Why?
Because He was more concerned that their relationship with God was based on faith and obedience, not material things.
Faith and obedience involves sharing if we can, with those who have less than us. That helps establish Gods kingdom in the here and now, through acts of selflessness, as the SA do.
Don't give us that "acts of selflessness" bulls*it. The Salvation Army preys on the vulnerable in the hope of indoctrinating them into their belief system. Making converts is not a sideline, it is their primary purpose. People in secular society really need to wake up to what a reprehensible bunch of scumbags the SA really are.
Jenstar, I don't know what you do - you might be the Angel of Mercy incarnate for all I know, but I have my doubts. You sound really angry. Have you had a bad experience with the Salvation Army? Why are you so derogatory?
I disagree with you entirely. I might not agree with their religious beliefs, but the Salvation Army does a lot of good work, which is more than can be said for many organisations - religious or not. They may go around with the collecting tin, but if you use a bit of logic, they have to get the funds from somewhere to do what they do, because in the real world we all know the Christian god isn't going to provide the money. If people didn't give, how else would the Salvation Army pay for shelters, the missing persons register, and all the other services they provide? How would you suggest they find the money? Even if they're only handing out soup to people sleeping on cardboard in shop doorways on a freezing winter night, the soup has to be bought, and I really don't think anyone can fault them for asking for money for that. At least they're out there caring for others - what are most of the rest of us doing? Absolutely nothing - because we're all wrapped up warmly in our beds after a good meal and a few hours in front of the fire watching TV!
I've worked with the Salvation Army countless times in my professional life, and they've always done all they could to help - without trying to convert anyone. I thank my lucky stars that I've never been in a position to need their help - but I'm very pleased they're around for those less fortunate who do need them.
I disagree with you entirely. I might not agree with their religious beliefs, but the Salvation Army does a lot of good work, which is more than can be said for many organisations - religious or not. They may go around with the collecting tin, but if you use a bit of logic, they have to get the funds from somewhere to do what they do, because in the real world we all know the Christian god isn't going to provide the money. If people didn't give, how else would the Salvation Army pay for shelters, the missing persons register, and all the other services they provide? How would you suggest they find the money? Even if they're only handing out soup to people sleeping on cardboard in shop doorways on a freezing winter night, the soup has to be bought, and I really don't think anyone can fault them for asking for money for that. At least they're out there caring for others - what are most of the rest of us doing? Absolutely nothing - because we're all wrapped up warmly in our beds after a good meal and a few hours in front of the fire watching TV!
I've worked with the Salvation Army countless times in my professional life, and they've always done all they could to help - without trying to convert anyone. I thank my lucky stars that I've never been in a position to need their help - but I'm very pleased they're around for those less fortunate who do need them.
jenstar ??
What on earth has happened to you that you feel it necessary to say such harsh things about an organisation that many hundreds of unfortunate individuals thank their lucky stars for?
I have come across many Salvationists in my lifetime and not once, I repeat, not once have they forced their beliefs at me.
What on earth has happened to you that you feel it necessary to say such harsh things about an organisation that many hundreds of unfortunate individuals thank their lucky stars for?
I have come across many Salvationists in my lifetime and not once, I repeat, not once have they forced their beliefs at me.
No snotneck,it would'nt be right for you to interupt a prayer meeting just to ask for money for a "Jolly Boys Outing". The Salvation Army do a wealth of great things such as collecting funds for the homeless,food and clothing for those in hostel's, not to mention finding children or family member's who have left home. They do all they can to trace them for a very small fee. They traced one of my nephew's who had left home at the age of 16 leaving no forwarding address or lead's from his mates. He was gone for almost 2 years but the SA tracked him down. I've nothing but praise for them!
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