a good age old question.

[villa_fan007]

do ghosts exist, and who is more likely to sence or see them.?

[reachesme]

No they don't and charlottens are more likely to sense or see them.
Keep your money in your pocket, they are all lying.
.

[naomi24]

reaches, I don't think villa is talking about a 'seance' - I think he means "who is most likely to SENSE them or see them?" Is that what you mean villa?

I have no doubt that ghosts exist, and I believe that some people are more likely to sense them or see them than others.

[luna-tic]

I remember naomi we had a similar discussion a while ago and said we thought that the other dimension where ghosts wander may be tuned into like a radio or T.V. by certain people. some are able to get cross messages and some clear F.M. so to speak.
I've heard enough accounts from friends and experienced enough to believe there are entities that cross the almost physical barrier into this world we know.

[naomi24]

Luna, Ah, yes, I remember it well (a cue for a song from you perhaps?).

[luna-tic]

I can't resist.
"When there's something strange in the neighbourhood,
Who ya gonna call?".........
(All together Now).

[naomi24]

GHOSTBUSTERS!!

Oooo, sorry, got carried away there for a moment.

[Octavius]

I believe that spirits exist but not ghosts, if that makes sense. The 'popular' idea of wandering or floating spectres in the recognisable garb of historical figures is not a belief I hold personally � aren�t they nearly always famous?! I do believe in the presence of spirits, either guiding or observing, possibly attached to ones soul but they are not physically �seen� just they are felt in the ambience.

If people claim to have better powers to �feel� the presence of spirits than I, then that is fair enough but I won�t necessarily believe them.

[jake-the-peg]

Why do you believe that Octavius?

[villa_fan007]

yeah... sense them naomi as in feel there prescence.
good answer anyway thanx...nobody actualy seen any then .
maybe this proves a point

[naomi24]

Yes, I've seen one Villa, which is why I have no doubt they exist.

Octavius, I don't believe a special power is necessary, but perhaps some people just have a deeper sense of spirituality than others. So many say they have seen them it would be unfair and iillogical for you to assume they are all either lying or hallucinating. I'd like you to answer Jake's question.

[ludwig]

I believe hauntings are a very real penomenon, but I have no idea what they are.

In my opinion, the fact that science can't explain or prove them yet simply serves to demonstrate that there's a problem with science -ie it isn't 'complete' yet.

[naomi24]

I agree ludwig. We view ghosts as a supernatural phenomenon, but I don't believe they are and I'm sure that science will eventually find an explanation.

[reachesme]

Thats what i meant, the only people who see ghosts are full of **it.

[missrandom]

I too am a believer! Just because we cant explain it with science doesnt mean it doesnt happen. After all people used to think the world was flat, to us now thats ridiculous, but back then it was a "fact". I suppose the only time we'll know for sure is when we die, and I hope not too find out for at least another 60 years.

[naomi24]

reaches - gosh, what an intelligent response that was! I wonder why scientists bother to investigate the unknown with people like you around who clearly have all the answers.

[RATTER15]

lol @ reaches, that's it tell em how it is!!

I'm sorry but I do agree with reaches, maybe not as strongly though lol

[tompaine]

If ghosts exist as reproducible, observable phenomena then science could have a crack at explaining them as reproducible and observable phenomena. However, whenever ghosts sightings/experiences have been properly investigated no evidence has come to light. Invariably ghosts can be explained through parsimonious natural explanations, it is not illogical to conclude that there is an absence of proper evidence that ghosts exist (I�m using exist loosely). The argument that so many people can't be wrong is surprising Naomi since you argue so well that so many people are wrong in believing the divinity of the bible (around 2 billion people). Ghosts are very real for the people who experience them but to say that we do not have good down to earth explanations for why people interpret explainable events as ghosts is not true. By the same token Homeopathic medicine, which works on the principle that water has a memory, is true. To hell with the evidence that it is the placebo effect, loads of people believe it so it�s true.

[naomi24]

Tom, although faith in homeopathic medicine and faith in religion are possibly comparable, there can be no comparison between those beliefs and the question of whether or not ghosts exist. The first two are based on faith and the last is based on the evidence of ones's own eyes. Since I have no evidence that faith in the word of the bible is justified, I argue against it. However, I have seen a ghost and therefore I cannot deny they exist.

You're putting words into my mouth Tom. I didn't say we do not have good down to earth explanations for the appearance of ghosts - I said I don't believe that everyone who claims to have seen a ghost is either lying or hallucinating, and I think one day science will find an explanation. I'm sure there are often logical reasons for some of the things people claim they have seen, but in my case, no - there was no logical explanation. It was a ghost. Sorry, but there you have it.

[arabia]

jinns are another living creation of god and it is not true when people say dead peoples spirits turn into ghosts. they are just like us. But they live in a different dimension .
they have children, families, jobs etc