Right to Life.

[brionon]

It has just been discovered that Tuberculosis,far from being spread to Livestock and Humanns by Badgers,is in fact, spread by Humans to Badgers. Should Humans be Culled ?

[Theland]

Maybe not a bad idea. For starters we could cull all the hairy imams who constantly preach sermons calling for our destruction. Then we could go for the wheelie bin inspectors, and anyone working for a local council who is given authority way, way beyond their ability to or need to use it, but do anyway, because its, "... in the rules."

[brionon]

I don't live in England,so forgive a daft question :-What is a Wheely Bin Inspector? Please .

[wizard69]

brionon...a wheely bin inspector is a little man who cant find employment elswhere. Physically (and often emotionally) he resembles Adolph Hitler and has a huge mother fixation. He's the kind of man (the term is used loosly) who, as a kid, would stand alone in the play yard while the other kids nicked his jellybabies.
His sole purpose in life is to go through your rubbish and check that you havnt discarded anything that is recyclable.
He is the kind of man that immiadiatly brightens up a room just by leaving it.

[brionon]

Wizard You're not Gonna believe this But I looked in the Bin behind the local Supermarket here in Gent in Belgium whilst 'She who must be obeyed'' was Shopping and pulled out 5 Cans of Beer --And {Wait for it} All in date.
I reckon an employees Stache for collecting after work. Will he be disappointed. The only other similarity between me and Hitler is a Penchant for blonde Madchens. Oh,by the way, thanks for the Gen.

[Whickerman]

Back to the point...

Have a read of this - it might shine some light onto your question.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6653 691.stm

[Theland]

Wednesday ..... recycle bin day .... mines out ...... just waiting to see who peers into it before it's emptied ..... new to us this "going green", so I 'm curious to see what 'Adolph' actually looks like.
But .... isn't this another example of the scientific pendulum swinging back and forth? What is the truth? Maybe next week another scientific, "expert", from the council maybe, will say T.B. is caused by us not recycling our tea bags or something. The jury is still out I think.

[Theland]

What was the general feelng on this from your question on the bbc site? Didn't have time to browse all of the answers.

[brionon]

ALL ? 4 answers but not much of interest. We live in Hope,do we not ?

[ruby27]

I was invited to pop in here by Theland which I thought was very friendly. Once I got here I went straight back to News section where the posts are nowhere near as hostile as here it would seem, nor did I feel I had sufficient religious knowledge to properly contribute. However I girded my loins and came back. Re this post. I am not a Christian but was brought up in that faith so do have some ideas of the essential rules. One of the 10 commandments is thou shalt not kill. Therefore anyone who is a Christian must disagree with human culling. Not confident enough about any other religion. Personally I would say no because I do not believe any violence is acceptable unless as last resort self defense. Also I could catch other lethal diseases but wouldn't consider others should be culled.

[ruby27]

infundibulum
Eugenics - not for me thank you, not just because of ethical considerations but it was popular with Hitler and before that the wealthy right wing intelligentsia of N America in the 20/30's - totally off putting

[ruby27]

Brionon, sorry if this a digression from your original thread but blame Infundibulum who digressed with me in someone else�s thread.
Infundibulum. True you didn�t name eugenics but doesn�t sterilization have the object of birth control, therefore the decision being made by you is whether people can have children? Whilst not made explicit by you, what you suggest is eugenics is it not? I would be interested if you can persuade me otherwise. Birth control on a permanent basis imposed whether done on the grounds of benevolence ie some one with profound learning disability would be incapable or parenting a child or the person has a potentially lethal communicable disease and therefore is prevented from passing this on to the fetus, is eugenics (my understanding). It is interesting that I have no qualms about considering eugenics as unethical as practiced by Hitler but am not so confident when thinking about someone with profound learning disability. How profound does the disability have to be, is this a decision I could make or only comfortable if someone else has that responsibility.

[Theland]

ruby27 - Thanks for dropping by, and as I thought, you would have something valuable to contribute to the debates.
(That's my chair over there by the way, but you can use it whenever ..... )

[ruby27]

Ah so sterilisation has as its intent the means of stopping the communication of disease, not the improvement of the human stock therefore it is not eugenics as even if improvement occurs this was only a by product not a purpose � I will have to accede the point to you.
�TB is spread through the air when someone with active TB disease of the lungs or exhales e.g., coughing, sneezing, singing, talking or playing a wind instrument To become infected, usually has to have frequent exposure for several hours to someone with active TB�.
Poor Badgers, well as an animal lover I have always felt it very wrong to cull them but I am now even more sympathetic to them not only do we cull them, we give them diseases and the poor blighters are subject to hours of being coughed and sneezed on whilst we chat on and play the dammed recorder! I now think the badgers dead at the side or the road were not trying to cross but committed suicide and threw themselves under the wheels of a car anything to get away, and given the way we treat them you can hardly blame them.

[brionon]

Well then,could we chain them to a tree and let the Dogs on them ?