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Joseph of Arimathea
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Is there any possibility that Joseph of Arimathea and Mary's husband Joseph were the same person?
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It is a possibility that Joseph of Nazareth and Joseph of Arimathea are one and the same, since the Nazarene Joseph (who was actually born in Bethlehem) disappeared soon after the birth. He may well have been trying to evade the CSA, changed his name to 'of Arimathea' by deed poll and reappeared later in the gospels under that name so that he didn�t have to provide Mary with maintenance for what was effectively his foster child.
He may not have been married either � would you marry a woman who produced a child incarnate of God and claimed to be a virgin?? It is suggested that they were affianced, but of course it is possible that he reappeared once his son won Fame Academy, if only to get in on the action and seek a management role.
One small fact that may disprove this though is that J of A was an educated person with considerable wealth and influence (enough to coerce Pilate into releasing the body of Jesus). J of N was a craftsman of little means. We often assume he was a carpenter, but it is possible he could have been a scribe later in life leading to ..."connections".
He may not have been married either � would you marry a woman who produced a child incarnate of God and claimed to be a virgin?? It is suggested that they were affianced, but of course it is possible that he reappeared once his son won Fame Academy, if only to get in on the action and seek a management role.
One small fact that may disprove this though is that J of A was an educated person with considerable wealth and influence (enough to coerce Pilate into releasing the body of Jesus). J of N was a craftsman of little means. We often assume he was a carpenter, but it is possible he could have been a scribe later in life leading to ..."connections".
The story that he was Mary's uncle is not in the gospels and is merely legend and not coraberated anywhere.
Joseph of Arimathea died mid 1st Century. Assuming he was of a similar age to Jesus at the crucifixtion, that would put him in his eighties when he died. if he was older than Mary, he would be considerably older than 80 when he died, possibly 40-50 years older).
Joseph of Arimathea died mid 1st Century. Assuming he was of a similar age to Jesus at the crucifixtion, that would put him in his eighties when he died. if he was older than Mary, he would be considerably older than 80 when he died, possibly 40-50 years older).
Well making some further wild assumptions�.
We are told that Jesus was crucified while Pilate was still Prefect (up to a few months after Passover 37 AD). So let�s say for arguments sake that he was about 36 years old or so when crucified at Passover in 37 AD.
If we are to believe the Glastonbury legend, Joe of A died in 45 AD aged 86, which would make him about 41 years old in 1AD and about 78 years old at the crucifixion. It is likely that he could have been the big (foster) daddy. Since Mary was likely to have been aged anywhere between 11 and 15 at the time of the birth it is plausible.
We are told that Jesus was crucified while Pilate was still Prefect (up to a few months after Passover 37 AD). So let�s say for arguments sake that he was about 36 years old or so when crucified at Passover in 37 AD.
If we are to believe the Glastonbury legend, Joe of A died in 45 AD aged 86, which would make him about 41 years old in 1AD and about 78 years old at the crucifixion. It is likely that he could have been the big (foster) daddy. Since Mary was likely to have been aged anywhere between 11 and 15 at the time of the birth it is plausible.
Ok... Since we're clearly not going to descend in to a conversation about Thomas the Tank Engine where I feel on quite an even footing, let's add something else to the mix too....
At the moment, Grom's and Octavius are both quoting ages in access of 60 for Joseph A while we're kicking around some theories. However I thought the mortality rate around that time was significantly lower than that?
At the moment, Grom's and Octavius are both quoting ages in access of 60 for Joseph A while we're kicking around some theories. However I thought the mortality rate around that time was significantly lower than that?
As long as people realise that all of this stuff is mere speculative fun - like trying to decide what brand of pumpkin it was that was turned into Cinderella's coach, fine.
The boring facts are that we know absolutely nothing of any value about Joseph the non-dad or Joe of A. Claims that the latter was Mary's uncle is just one of those wild ones that credulous people like 4GS believe uncritically. No, I don't possess an anorak - just a brain. Cheers.
The boring facts are that we know absolutely nothing of any value about Joseph the non-dad or Joe of A. Claims that the latter was Mary's uncle is just one of those wild ones that credulous people like 4GS believe uncritically. No, I don't possess an anorak - just a brain. Cheers.
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