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I am getting Fuc&ing fed up of religionist posting...
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"if god wants to heal me he will/can"
Seriously if thats what you believe then get the FuGG out of hospitals and free the bed up for people who dont believe and need actual medical attention.
I am so so Sick fed up of people not realising and not respecting the work of doctors and nurses up and down the country who dont get the decent praise they damn well deserve for healing people day in day out.
Honestly lets wheel all thoses who believe that its gods doing into the churches and let them deal with it.
Any thoughts?
Seriously if thats what you believe then get the FuGG out of hospitals and free the bed up for people who dont believe and need actual medical attention.
I am so so Sick fed up of people not realising and not respecting the work of doctors and nurses up and down the country who dont get the decent praise they damn well deserve for healing people day in day out.
Honestly lets wheel all thoses who believe that its gods doing into the churches and let them deal with it.
Any thoughts?
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"""if god wants to heal me he will/can"
Seriously if thats what you believe then get the FuGG out of hospitals and free the bed up for people who dont believe and need actual medical attention. """
That was my LOL of the day. Good one.
I recently converted to 'The Zone' (ie Zone Reality, Medical channel, etc channels on Sky freeview), they're great bs viewing. Lots of the programs centre around escapes from dangerous situations or medical miracles (Miracles with Roma Downey (sp)). It dawned on me after a while that all of the outcomes are attributed by the survivors to 'the work of the Lord'. This may just be a religious channel using some underhand means to promote the work of the Lord through miracles. I feel kind of angry to anyone who regularly tries to pass off obvious good luck or simply unexplained medical anomalies to the work of some fictitious bearded guy who lives in the clouds. Normal people should take a stand against this bullsht. So I'm right behind you.
Seriously if thats what you believe then get the FuGG out of hospitals and free the bed up for people who dont believe and need actual medical attention. """
That was my LOL of the day. Good one.
I recently converted to 'The Zone' (ie Zone Reality, Medical channel, etc channels on Sky freeview), they're great bs viewing. Lots of the programs centre around escapes from dangerous situations or medical miracles (Miracles with Roma Downey (sp)). It dawned on me after a while that all of the outcomes are attributed by the survivors to 'the work of the Lord'. This may just be a religious channel using some underhand means to promote the work of the Lord through miracles. I feel kind of angry to anyone who regularly tries to pass off obvious good luck or simply unexplained medical anomalies to the work of some fictitious bearded guy who lives in the clouds. Normal people should take a stand against this bullsht. So I'm right behind you.
Being a good doctor means being incredibly compulsive. It has nothing to do with flights of intuition or brilliant diagnoses or even saving lives. If you think that you�ve been watching too much House.
It is dealing with a lot of people with chronic diseases that you really can't change or improve. You can help patients. You can make a difference in their lives, but this is done mostly by drudgery - day after day paying attention to details, seeing patient after patient and complaint after complaint, and being responsive when you don't feel like being responsive.
To be a doctor, then, means much more than to dispense pills or to patch up or repair torn flesh and shattered minds. To be a doctor is to be an intermediary between life and death, sickness and health, whatever creed, colour or gender. I may thank God for any cure and I may also thank the doctors, would you deny me that relief and right? If they fail to cure me then can I berate God and the doctors? Is that ok with you?
Must we eulogize Apollo and Aesculapius instead?
It is dealing with a lot of people with chronic diseases that you really can't change or improve. You can help patients. You can make a difference in their lives, but this is done mostly by drudgery - day after day paying attention to details, seeing patient after patient and complaint after complaint, and being responsive when you don't feel like being responsive.
To be a doctor, then, means much more than to dispense pills or to patch up or repair torn flesh and shattered minds. To be a doctor is to be an intermediary between life and death, sickness and health, whatever creed, colour or gender. I may thank God for any cure and I may also thank the doctors, would you deny me that relief and right? If they fail to cure me then can I berate God and the doctors? Is that ok with you?
Must we eulogize Apollo and Aesculapius instead?
Do we maintain that doctors have the �gift of healing� then? That sounds almost arcane. Might one wonders where this gift must come from? Or are they just following procedural advice handed down by generations and peddling approved narcotics on the basis of pharmaceutical research?
I am at a loss who I should thank when I have been given tablets that ease my ailments. The laboratory monkey, the research scientist, the guinea pigs, the prescribing doctor, the pharmacist who could read the writing or can I just thank God that all these things have combined their knowledge over centuries to extend my life in relative comfort?
Why does the Qer assume that if we thank God, we do not also thanking the whole supply chain? And equally so, when it all goes horribly wrong?
I am at a loss who I should thank when I have been given tablets that ease my ailments. The laboratory monkey, the research scientist, the guinea pigs, the prescribing doctor, the pharmacist who could read the writing or can I just thank God that all these things have combined their knowledge over centuries to extend my life in relative comfort?
Why does the Qer assume that if we thank God, we do not also thanking the whole supply chain? And equally so, when it all goes horribly wrong?
Positive thinking can aid in the curing/recovery/well being of many with serious and terminal illness. If this takes the form of religion then who am I or anyone else to comment if it offers someone suffering some form of peace. It is my experience that those who believe God helped in the recovery also believe that he worked through the doctors and as such thank both them, the people treating them and no doubt whichever deity they're appreactive of.
On a similar note when things go tits up (technical expression you know), those with faith often blame and go against their own God too. Lots of times they go back, they think it happens for a reason or that he works in mysterious ways... whatever, I can't say I share that opinion but I'm a ******** little heathen but I actually notice it is not the doctors that get blamed. (Although there are obviously occasions when the medical profession does have something to answer for).
Incidently Octavius, to be a doctor also requires a high boredom threshold. Mostly the diagnosis and treatment is routine, cases are rarely as interesting as they are in House as you quite rightly point out unless you work in perhaps a particular specialty. And even then it would depend on the specialty.
A little compassion towards people suffering who are eitehr celebrating or looking for a reason why would go a long way. An intellectual debate as to the rights and wrongs and existence of any deity to a patient who has just been told that the treatment that seemed to be working has not worked or that a secondary incurable cancer has just popped up and there's no more that can be done is often frowned upon. It is my experience they generally prefer a kleenex and a quiet person.
On a similar note when things go tits up (technical expression you know), those with faith often blame and go against their own God too. Lots of times they go back, they think it happens for a reason or that he works in mysterious ways... whatever, I can't say I share that opinion but I'm a ******** little heathen but I actually notice it is not the doctors that get blamed. (Although there are obviously occasions when the medical profession does have something to answer for).
Incidently Octavius, to be a doctor also requires a high boredom threshold. Mostly the diagnosis and treatment is routine, cases are rarely as interesting as they are in House as you quite rightly point out unless you work in perhaps a particular specialty. And even then it would depend on the specialty.
A little compassion towards people suffering who are eitehr celebrating or looking for a reason why would go a long way. An intellectual debate as to the rights and wrongs and existence of any deity to a patient who has just been told that the treatment that seemed to be working has not worked or that a secondary incurable cancer has just popped up and there's no more that can be done is often frowned upon. It is my experience they generally prefer a kleenex and a quiet person.
Act of Bod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp3J_O1hZtk
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Studying to be a doctor is hard. Working as a doctor or nurse is hard. It involves long hours working with difficult problems and sometimes difficult people. The effort they choose to make can make a considerable difference to people's lives. They do this, then someone turns round and says 'Hittttttt's a Mirahcle!!'
I mind the misappropriation of gratitude, but not as much as I deplore appropriating any act to a completely fictitious power just because you want to prop up your bullsh*t esoteric notion which you know has shaky foundations.
********g Lourdes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp3J_O1hZtk
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Studying to be a doctor is hard. Working as a doctor or nurse is hard. It involves long hours working with difficult problems and sometimes difficult people. The effort they choose to make can make a considerable difference to people's lives. They do this, then someone turns round and says 'Hittttttt's a Mirahcle!!'
I mind the misappropriation of gratitude, but not as much as I deplore appropriating any act to a completely fictitious power just because you want to prop up your bullsh*t esoteric notion which you know has shaky foundations.
********g Lourdes.
Even if someone did turn round to a doctor and say 'its a miracle', I would hazard a guess that the educated doctor would smile knowingly, safe in the knowledge that his/her work has produced favourable results, quite possibly (and dare I hazard a guess again) without divine intervention.
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Positive thinking, in whichever way people want to perceive that, no doubt helps - and, as China says, who are we to tell anyone how to cope with their illness? Sometimes a belief in a God is all desperately sick people have to cling to, and if they feel that gives them some strength and some hope, then so be it. However, I have seen some genuine miracles take place in hospitals - but they were all the work of the medical profession.
If laughter truly is "the best medicine" than . . . thank God for "religionist posters".
As an added benefit, it keeps them and me off the streets, temporarily at least.
Heaven forbid that any of us be taken 2 cweusly.
Bonus question! Does anyone here happen to know the actual reason for all them women swooning beneath the cross of Jesus?
be right back ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ <o/�\o>
As an added benefit, it keeps them and me off the streets, temporarily at least.
Heaven forbid that any of us be taken 2 cweusly.
Bonus question! Does anyone here happen to know the actual reason for all them women swooning beneath the cross of Jesus?
be right back ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ <o/�\o>
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