Do you believe in ghost?

[boogieboogie]

An earlier post http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/ChatterBank/Que stion598762.html
got me curious.

Do people believe in programs like Britains most haunted, and Ghost hunters? I thought people watch this for a laugh but aparently not. Surely people can't believe in ghost these days.

[toss-er]

i like dead people

[naomi24]

Why not? I believe that ghosts exist, but I don't believe programmes like Most Haunted. (I haven't seen Ghost Hunters, but I imagine it's pretty much the same). What rubbish!

[tigerlily11]

I believe in ghost but after some years on the subject I have come to the conclusion that they are not what they seem.
I believe that they are someting we cannot see. They are not people but there are plenty of other explanations for them.
As for Most Haunted and so on I wouldn't give them house room.

[y-cymro]

I believe in ghosts and have seen many.

I don't watch those trashy TV programmes though, the majority of them just make "stars" out of charlatans intent on getting famous.

[WaldoMcFroog]

Even Most Haunted don't pretend it's actually real these days, having been caught out too many times. Much like a psychic phoneline, it's "for entertainment purposes only".

Have a poke about on YouTube and you can find quite a few examples of Yvette blatently cheating. Try 'Yvette, Oiuja, Cheating, Haunted'.

[naomi24]

Do they not? And yet they continue to produce it. Maybe they like to give people a laugh, eh?

(I hate to say this - but I'll bet there are some people who take it all in. Spooky!).

[Jafi]

I keep an open mind regarding ghosts and stuff.
The paranormal fascinates me.

Never seen a ghost and to be honest not sure if i ever would like to see one, must admit i used to watch most haunted and i loved it, all this unexplained stuff just makes life more interesting.

[keyplus90]

I do believe in ghosts. But as many said I think same about most haunted. Although Mrs Keyplus watches that very regularly but would not like when I am sitting as it makes me laugh and according to her I ruin the atmosphere. Can't help it.

[mibn2cweus]

I believe in ghosts. I know what they are, from whence they arise and the nature of the danger they pose to humanity.

Ghosts are apparitions of a mind that has lost or more likely never acquired the ability to differentiate between the reality of what is and the wanderings of an imagination that refuses to accept that reality imposes limitations on what is possible.

Such a mind has sacrificed its ability to rationally evaluate and integrate its perceptions as well as its ability to determine what can be changed and how best to go about making the changes which would make reality a more pleasant and worthwhile place to live in.

Exempting oneself from the need to correlate ones beliefs to reality one is resigned to venturing down a path where nothing is certain except uncertainty and nothing seems more real than the nightmarish scenario of formless floating abstractions. A mind thus debilitated will not survive such abuses for long soon rendering the one responsible for its care and proper use to the state of a zombie, with no regard for its own welfare, no respect for reality or sense of fairness in its dealings with others. This is the nature of the real terror that beliefs in disembodied spirits unleash upon an unsuspecting and disbelieving populace.

Are ghosts real? You better believe it!

[figure]

I believe in myself.

[Ice.Maiden]

Yes, we have several who reside with us quite happily.

[naomi24]

mibs, your post implies that you are in possession of certain knowledge to which no one else is privy, and that's not only a very arrogant claim, it's an impossible one. Reality does indeed impose limitations upon what is possible, but since human beings are not in possession of the total sum of the knowledge of the universe, and since your experience in this instance is non-existent, all you can truthfully say is that you haven't witnessed that which others, because of their experience, know to be reality.

In short, people who claim to have seen ghosts are not necessarily irrational, as you suggest, but your assessment of them as such displays your own failing in your inability to investigate anything that you, yourself, have not witnessed - and that is a limited mind indeed.

[andrea81]

I do believe in ghosts, but I do not believe in programmes like Most haunted!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=N3x_JUHDYZ0

[sara3]

the tv programmes are nonsense, but I've had a few "unexplained" happenings, so I'm open the the idea of ghosties!

[boogieboogie]

Ok thanks for your replies most interesting. It's obvious many haven't followed up the link which is what I was talking about so here it is. People actually believe this. The way they are talking is not natural (scripted) and for gods sake just look at the ghost??? hahaha so obviously fake but people believe..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?vgistqdCjGvw

thermal image ghost

[chakka35]

tigerlily 11, what are these "other explanations" of which you claim there are plenty?

[Octavius]

I believe in spirits but not ghosts that we all �know� or commonly perceive ghosts to be in the physical visual sense. Whilst I believe these spirits exist around us, I don�t hold that they walk the earth in some translucent form, getting up to all kinds of skulduggery and scaring people, or even turning up unannounced with no malice whatsoever. They are just around us, unseen, unheard and unobtrusive, just watching over us and guiding us on our paths.

[boogieboogie]

So octavious are the ghost that you speak of that are all around like the one in the video, can your ghost be seen with thermal image equipment?

[Octavius]

Alas, I cannot open the link at work. For infrared thermography to work there has to be variations in temperature, the amount of radiation emitted by an object increases with temperature so �hot� things are visible against the blackness of cooler things. They can also only measure surface areas.

So, I don�t really see how a �ghost� would have any surface area as such to be recorded thermographically, and if it did � then surely it isn�t a ghost? � nor that a ghost would have the capacity to be warm or cold itself, since most ghost believers more often relay a cold atmospheric feeling. Again this can be a perfectly natural �cold spot� in the environ. If you are pertaining to black body radiation or infrared then any number of tricks can be employed to create a �mysterious effect� that would be easily dismissed with normal vision returned. Like this for example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_body#Radiat ion_emitted_by_a_human_body

I caveat this by not having seen the vid, but if the �ghost� is of a dark �shape� then equally this could be any tangible object at all.

[naomi24]

Octavius, ...... I don�t hold that they walk the earth in some translucent form ...........

The idea that they are translucent is a misconception - they often appear as solid as any living person.

(Hello Chakka, nice to see you back).