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The crucifiction
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We know that Jesus was crucified, but did he physically die on the cross like the bible would have us believe?
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jno, this was Almighty God for heaven's sake - and his followers weren't all lowly, illiterate fishermen. Some of them were rich and influential people. He was killed and rose from the dead, and allegedly a great many his friends bore witness to that. Do you honestly believe that if such were really the case, no one would have taken the trouble to record the slightest hint of it? Sorry, but for me that just doesn't wash.
Oops! Sorry about that Zabadak. Should have been more specific. Must be the effects of the magic mushrooms. ;o)
Keyplus, even though I don't believe Jesus died on the cross, I watched your video and there's no doubt your professor is very keen to quote the Koran in his efforts to discredit the bible. However, the 'proof' he claims to be able to demonstrate is complete and utter nonsense. No surprise there then.
By the way, he says he's met only one Arab Christian. Gosh, I've met more than that so I have to wonder where he's been all his life. Maybe he doesn't get out much, eh?
Keyplus, even though I don't believe Jesus died on the cross, I watched your video and there's no doubt your professor is very keen to quote the Koran in his efforts to discredit the bible. However, the 'proof' he claims to be able to demonstrate is complete and utter nonsense. No surprise there then.
By the way, he says he's met only one Arab Christian. Gosh, I've met more than that so I have to wonder where he's been all his life. Maybe he doesn't get out much, eh?
Yet once again I hope you had watched that with some intent. Hegave more quote from Bible than Quran and did say that if he had to quote only Quran then that would not be justice as Non-Muslims would not accept that.
Then about Christian Arab. Again he talked about a Christian Arab Priest and not just Christian Arab........ so perhaps have another go.
Then about Christian Arab. Again he talked about a Christian Arab Priest and not just Christian Arab........ so perhaps have another go.
Keyplus, the question was 'Was Jesus really crucified?' Your man claimed he could offer definite proof from the bible that he wasn't. He then attempted to employ doctrinal biblical texts that he clearly had no understanding of and that actually had no bearing on the question to support his silly claim. You might WANT to believe it, Keyplus, but if you look at it logically it's very clearly nonsense. If biblical texts existed that prove Jesus wasn't crucified, there would be no foundation for Christianity so don't you think people would have noticed by now? It certainly wouldn't take a second rate muslim 'professor' with an agenda to point it out.
As for the opponent I don't need another go. He was the only Christian Arab your professor had ever met.
Zabadak, are you a member of any particular church?
As for the opponent I don't need another go. He was the only Christian Arab your professor had ever met.
Zabadak, are you a member of any particular church?
nomai, you seem to be defending the bible here only because the person is a muslim, any other day i have seen you bleat about its trashiness. its not only muslim scholars who propose it never happened. the only 'definite proof' we have of what happened is the gospels them self, which are of course, questionable in many ways.
http://www.telegraph....oss-says-scholar.html
http://www.telegraph....oss-says-scholar.html
Ankou, oh dear, you can't resist it can you - and it shows. I don't believe for one moment you've actually watched that video, but nevertheless you feel qualified to comment upon my assessment of it. However, that aside had you, Gandhi, Uncle Sam, Ned Kelly, Mohammed, or Pocahontas offered similarly ridiculous 'evidence', I would have said exactly the same simply because the 'evidence' is just that - ridiculous - so don't try to play a non-existent race card because it just won't wash. Furthermore, I have never condemned the bible for its 'trashiness' because I don't believe it is trashy. Must try harder Ankou.
well the crux simplis, a furca or patibulum could have been used or any number of other types. but if the bible had not spoken of the nails and the spear, then it would be reasonable to guess at his survival rate. as it is stated, one would assume he copped it, and that is what the bible intends us to accept if you are using biblical accounts to substantiate anything.
anyhow, another topic bekons.
anyhow, another topic bekons.
Ankou, that makes for an interesting historical study, but it's completely irrelevant to this discussion. Like all Muslims, Keyplus' 'professor' is convinced the 'crucifixion' (or whatever you want to call it depending on the shape of the instrument you think most likely employed in the torture), didn't happen at all and he was using biblical texts out of context to attempt to 'prove' it to his audience. With the more gullible he clearly succeeded.
Hi Sandy .. please don't waste your time praying for all us agnostics,atheists and doubters, we aren't really evil in the biblical sense. You would do better to expend your supernatural powers helping to save satanists and devil worshippers as they may be praying to their deity to save you, so you could end up in hell.
