Obviously JTP you overlooked my previous response... I believe that I'm as intellectually as curious as the next person and, as previously mentioned, thousands of scientists, philosophers, and intellectuals of all stripes are believers. We've discussed this particular aspect before, but no one has ever provided an answer to that conondrum. Can it be that all of them, last man jack of them, are stunted in some way although they've demonstrated the art and science of thinking? Why does that remain a bastion of retreat when asked? It's somewhat like greendog's worn out argument about "countless men, women and children, etc..." when it's very easy to demonstrate that almost all genocidal wars have nothing to do with "religion". As I've stated at times, ad nauseum, ad infinitum in the past. Just look at this century... Pol Pot, Hitler, Mussolini, the African slaughter(s), WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam.... there were no or very little in the way of religious aspects to any of these. In my opinion...