F1 Grand Prix, Monza

[ChillDoubt]

Will be getting underway at 1 o'clock with another Mercedes front row but this time Hamilton had no qualifying gremlins when it counted and he starts on pole.
Can we expect Rosberg to toe the line and follow the latest management edict? As Lewis said, he isn't the one who needs telling.
Either way there will be fireworks and we'll really get to see just how good Nico supposedly is whilst having to chase. Can't wait!

[grasscarp]

A few years ago I had to fly a private jet to Monza to bring back a team head. Plane empty going out so took husband. He was well looked after by hostess and saw me landing!

[BRIGHT SPARK]

Word in the pit lane is..Nico had to give the win to Lewis and make it look convincing...a bit like when you have to let your kid brother play with your train set!!

[ChillDoubt]

I heard that rumour BRIGHT SPARK, somehow I can't see it. If the decision was made to make matters even, Rosberg would have had to retire, surely?
He only got second at Spa, Lewis got nothing.
Rosberg does not strike me as the type of guy who would have followed that team order once on the track.
If that was the case, to ensure fairness they should have suspended him for one race and ordered Lewis to give up a winner spot and drop to second(should he have been in a winning position), shouldn't they?
There is no way Lewis would have done that either, I'm sure!
I genuinely feel that Hamilton has got inside his head, he is clearly the better driver when both are on equal terms and Rosberg does not cope well when pressured by Hamilton, as his 'do not tell me how close Hamilton is getting' order on the team radio yesterday.
If Lewis has no more equipment failures, idiotic passing attempts from his team mate or him parking the car to prevent a faster qualifying then I'm certain he can and will chase Rosberg down.
Either way, it'll be a fantastic climax to the season.

[Bazile]

it was very odd how he ran on at the escape road , at the corner - no locking up or anything

[ChillDoubt]

He did it on lap 9 earlier Bazile.
He wasn't the only one to go down the escape road!

Lewis also had a lock-up late on on that corner, Kvyat couldn't avoid it and failed to negotiate the blocks as he went through it.

[Bazile]

fair enough ChillDoubt - i was only watching it on and off

Do you think Hamilton will still be with mercedes next season ?

[ChillDoubt]

Yes Bazile, I genuinely do.
Regardless of Rosberg nationality, if the team were to look at it dispassionately they must surely know that overall, Lewis is the better driver - that's known throughout the paddock.
It is going to be a massive juggling act as both are still contracted for next season. Neither will want to give up the best car on the grid but if they were forced out(not sure that's possible anyway as they have contracts) where would they go? Possibly Red Bull as Riciardo is now obviously the better driver there and Vettel may need a new challenge, or maybe Ferrari in place of Alonso who is also static at the moment but most pundits reckon that nobody will move next season(certainly not among the top teams).

The whole situation does have something of a powder keg atmosphere and Mercedes wouldn't want to lose either driver but if you were looking at both with an unbiased view you would have to say that Hamilton edges it. He's been there and done it in tougher conditions, Rosberg is yet to prove himself as a passer or show dogged determination in adversity IMHO.

[ToraToraTora]

Bright spark, No lewis was mauch faster in the latter part of the race, Rosberg going straight on helped but nerely delayed the innevitable. Once Hamilton was past he made a dcent lead and cruised home.

Bazile, Rosberg did not lock up because he knew he was too hot, that would have flat spotted the tyres and possibly spun the car, he did the best thing for him in the situation.

There seems to be a lot of conspiracy theories flying about but I'd go with Occams razor generally. Two great cars with two great drivers racing each other, nothing more sinister than that.

[Bazile]

ChillDoubt - I would agree with that analysis .

Beyond 2015 , will be a different matter, given that Rosberg has a contarct and Hamilton hasn't .

[Bazile]

ToraToraTora

//There seems to be a lot of conspiracy theories flying about but I'd go with Occams razor generally. Two great cars with two great drivers racing each other, nothing more sinister than that.//

That's all us F1 fans want

[ChillDoubt]

Beyond 2015 , will be a different matter, given that Rosberg has a contarct and Hamilton hasn't .
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True, but by then maybe Ferrari might have a decent car or Red Bull may reproduce the stunning one that took Vettel to so many titles. They're all looking for the right engine/chassis combination and it seems to come in cycles. Mercedes currently have the golden ticket but who knows in 2015/16?

[Bazile]

While wer'e at it - what's happened to Button ? - his team mate is consistently out performing him - with the same package

[ToraToraTora]

I reckon Williams are going to be there or there abouts pretty soon. Be great to see them back on top.

[BlueToffee]

Oh dear, I must be coming a real grumpy old git, F1 is about appealing as wrestling, soaps, reality TV, SCD, X Factor and Britain's got Talent!

[ToraToraTora]

...but you felt the need to tell us that then eh blue toffee?

[Bazile]

BlueToffee - i'll tell you what - why dont you list your interests so i can see if they appeal to me ?

[BlueToffee]

Aren't I allowed to post an opinion then TTT?

[ChillDoubt]

In that case BT, I have the same interests in your negative opinions as you have in F1.
Fair enough?

[ToraToraTora]

yes but you don't have to go looking for a subject you are not interested in and then troll post it, just ignore it, don't comment at all, or even start your own thread on the subject.

[ChillDoubt]

While wer'e at it - what's happened to Button ? - his team mate is consistently out performing him - with the same package
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Yes, his position looks increasingly shaky. I think he knows the writing is on the wall and his demeanour suggest he appears resigned to it.
If he does go it would be nice to see DiResta get a drive again in F1 after cruelly being cut at the last minute.
He looked a good prosepect.