Talks Like A Man, Walks Like A Man Runs Like A Man....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/48153742
Watch this interview and tell this is a woman! "easiest race in my life" - yeah, try running against other blokes mate.

[Prudie]

So which part actually is a woman?

[maggiebee]

Very judgemental - are you an expert TTT?

[Sqad]

That is a good question Prudie.

She has high testosterone levels and unless she has XX chromosomes, which is unlikely, then to me she is a bloke..
Physically I have no idea if she has a penis or a clitoris or any other female/male sex parts.......but to me....it is a man.

[naomi24]

//It comes just two days after the South African, 28, lost a landmark case against athletics' governing body.
Semenya challenged IAAF rules designed to limit testosterone levels in female runners but the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) rejected her appeal.//

I don’t understand this at all Why is this athlete still competing in women’s events – and why are men identifying as women still allowed to compete in women’s events?

[mushroom25]

//why are men identifying as women still allowed to compete in women’s events? //

equality and inclusivity are the new kings of sport. people born with XX chromosomes need to get used to it.

[ToraToraTora]

maggie, I know a geezer when I see one, did you watch/listen to the interview?

[naomi24]

mushroom, it doesn't make sense though. This athlete must have testosterone levels reduced - but men who are clearly men but choose to identify as women are allowed to compete freely. This one would have been better off to claim to be a man identifying as a woman!

[wicca]

no thanks

[jackthehat]

Caster Semenya was born (as far as her parents are concerned) a girl and raised from birth as such.
She has never sought to defraud anyone about her 'sex-status' and it is unfortunate that her on-going battles with the various governing bodies to allow her to compete have reached a peak at the same-time as the nonsense about self-identifying wo/men being allowed to do so.

I have great sympathy for her plight and wish I could say I am surprised by the unkind comments about her physical appearance......but I'm not.

[Togo]

https://thumbsnap.com/i/V1kEK6kz.jpg

[Sqad]

JTH

" (as far as her parents are concerned"

Well the opinion of her parents are clearly not paramount in this case, certainly not for international athletics. Her sex needs to be identified as far as possible to slipher in to the only two available categories....MALE or FEMALE and clearly this is the problem which has been left to the scientists.

As TTT said......from a common sense, non scientific view...based on experience......she is a "geezer" and one shouldn't be surprised, as you were not, at understandable unkind (to you) comments.

[Sqad]

Togo...;-)

[jackthehat]

My point is that since 1991 (the year of her birth) she has been a girl. There has been no conspiracy to sneak a man into women's races, as seems to be the inference.

She is obviously physically unappealling to all you red-blooded blokes out there but it seems unkind to poke fun at something she is unable to help.

[ToraToraTora]

what with all this self identifying cobras, female sport will die unless they introduce a simple factor to determine Male/female. It's not practical to have competition for each variant, so there should be 2 categories, those with a Y chromosome are men, those without are women. I don't care if a 6 foot docker declares he's a woman, he still competes with the men, simples

[ToraToraTora]

I'm not poking fun JTT, I'm concerned for women's sport going forward.

[Khandro]

If this isn't stopped soon it will be the end of women's sport, and if these gender issues are so unimportant, why are there no lesbians running in men's events?

[tamborine]

females dont have adams apples but Caster Simonya does have an adams apple - that aint no dame!

[mushroom25]

//It's not practical to have competition for each variant,//

why not? they can do it for Paralympians..... https://www.paralympic.org/classification

[Sqad]

"My point is that since 1991 (the year of her birth) she has been a girl. There has been no conspiracy to sneak a man into women's races, as seems to be the inference."

I understand that, but conspiracy has nothing to do with the issues, which is, should she compete with the men or the women and these , at the moment are the only alternatives.

"She is obviously physically unappealling to all you red-blooded blokes out there but it seems unkind to poke fun at something she is unable to help."

She is also unappealing, as a woman, to many women that i have spoke to....e.g Mrs sqad and mates.

I don't think anybody is poking fun at her.

[jackthehat]

Self-identifying wo/men are one issue; Caster Semenya is another.

Of course, the first should not be allowed to compete (not unless they have had the full op - at least losing their 'equipment' would demonstrate some commitment - and probably not even then) *but* Caster Semenya is a different matter entirely.
Her physicality is 'natural' to her (however 'unnatural' it may be to the rest of us, it is not artificial) and, as I have said, the controversey has arisen at the same time as the 'self-identifying' issue has raised its' ugly head.