Can We Have It Both Ways?

[ToraToraTora]

https://streamable.com/5jmop9
...surely if all the virtue signalling, kneeling etc is sincere the surely civilised nations of the world should be boycotting the Qatar world cup.

[Ken4155]

Every single kick will be televised to the entire world. Wouldn't close-ups of players wearing 'human rights' messages show the barbarity of the Qataris just the same.
I know what your beef is, TTT. It's all about your objections to players taking the knee. Don't pretend otherwise 'cos it makes you just as much a hypocrite as them.

[vulcan42]

\\ Every single kick will be televised to the entire world.//
That's the whole point, with every single kick shown, it tells the world everything is normal. However, to have the biggest football attraction in the world and there's not one team there, focus of attention would shift to the reason why they weren't.

[ToraToraTora]

ken: ||Every single kick will be televised to the entire world. Wouldn't close-ups of players wearing 'human rights' messages show the barbarity of the Qataris just the same.|| - not as much as if there is no tournament or a farce or a "tournament" and the ensuing media feeding frenzy.
|| I know what your beef is, TTT. It's all about your objections to players taking the knee. Don't pretend otherwise 'cos it makes you just as much a hypocrite as them. || - no, my objections are listed very ably by the guy in the video.

[ToraToraTora]

^^^^ farce OF

[Ken4155]

^
As i said earlier, the time to boycott Qatar would have been when it was first awarded. Plenty of time then to find another venue.

[Ken4155]

TTT, had the guy in the video NOT mentioned taking the knee, you wouldn't have listened beyond a few seconds. Perlease!

[ichkeria]

Indeed.
Which countries do you think are likely to boycott the World Cup?
That it would be a "farce"?
And even if it was a "farce" how would that help anything?

[ToraToraTora]

I agree it should never have been awarded and yes the teams of the world should have boycotted it anyway. Nothing will happen now of course FIFA is as bent as a butchers hook and the national associations aren't far behind. I just think all the virtue signalling cobras we have been subjected to of late is rather hollow in the light of the contents of the video.

[ToraToraTora]

ich: //Which countries do you think are likely to boycott the World Cup?// - none
//That it would be a "farce"?// - well if half a dozen top teams pulled out it would make it a farce but they won't
//And even if it was a "farce" how would that help anything? // - see my answer at 09:20

[ichkeria]

Sorry but I cannot agree.
I think ken is right: you simply cannot get ovet the fact that players take the knee. It asll springs from there.
Qatar should not have got the World Cu6p but they did and anything else now is just hot air (and there will be plenty of that no matter who is there)

[Ken4155]

^
By which you mean the taking the knee. :-J
You are right, of course, about FIFA - where there's vast amounts of money, there's always corruption. It would have been very interesting had all the major players refused to even consider attending a world cup in Qatar. Very interesting indeed.

[ToraToraTora]

ken: "It would have been very interesting had all the major players refused to even consider attending a world cup in Qatar. Very interesting indeed. " - yes it would but sadly when the whole game is based on fraud, cheating and dishonour it's not surprising that the players have no qualms about attending, it's the very nature of the "sport".

[Ken4155]

TTT, by 'major players' i actually meant the top sides in the world.