How Did We Suddently Get So Carp?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66630968
...Borthwick is a disaster, with week to the world cup we can write that off. He'll have to go straight after though.

[ToraToraTora]

*weeks!

[ClareTG0ld]

It's all part of a deep strategy of lulling the rest of the world into a false sense of complacency. No other plausible explanation.

[ToraToraTora]

CTG, I don't think so, we have the ability in there somewhere but I think the players are not happy with Borthwick and are just going through the motions.

[douglas9401]

Here's hoping they find what they're looking for. ;-)

[ToraToraTora]

All the home nations are better than us at the moment, Scotland have come on leaps and bounds, Ireland are world no 1 though they inexplicably made hard work of Samoa yesterday. So I'd say Ireland and France have the best chance of stopping the Southern Hemisphere domination.

[ClareTG0ld]

TBH I was being sarcastic. England are in dire straits right now.

[Deskdiary]

I have genuine concerns this might be 2015 all over again and Eng don’t make it of the group. Argentina are a great side (and I love the style of their play) and of course they beat us the last time we played them. Japan can be a banana skin - ask RSA, which by the way I rank as one of the most exciting games I’ve seen.

Undeniably the talent is there - England boast a number of players that would be in any World 15 - but something just isn’t working at the moment.

Having said the above, Eng went into the 2007 WC in a bit of turmoil and reached the final. So who knows.

The only silver lining at the moment is that as poor as Eng are they’re still better than Wales.

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Yes in 2007 the players basically sidelined the coach (Ashton) and worked it among themselves and but for a dodgy decision nearly won it! If that happens again great but I can't see it.

[Deskdiary]

Being at Twickenham when France utterly destroyed us in the 6N earlier this year, my money is on them - plus home advantage, although the loss of Ntamack is a huge blow for them, although, blimey, RSA we’re brilliant on Friday night and Esterhuizon looked scarily good.

I don’t think Eng have a chance so in a way I’m looking forward to the WC as I have no expectations…and the RWC drives my wife mad because I always watch every single game. I love it.