A long term solution

[rowanwitch]

All AB ers with children should start training them to play football properly now....even if they are not that good so in 16 years time we will have a few more to pick from....all the ones who aren't much cop will get a two month expenses paid footie holiday to look forward to the good ones will move abroad and play for other countries and we can have the same arguments again and again the difference will be you will have rich kids and be much happier about the whole thing Those who haven't got children get a move on your country needs you...

[R1Geezer]

Goo idea but I don't think the England manager actually picks the best players, he just sticks with his favourites. Last night we had a player on the bench who nearly always scores for us and one on the park who was playing terrible. So what does he do? Replace Defoe, with someone who couldn't score in a Brothel when he should have taken off Rooney and put Crouch on. I don't believe that in the whole of England that sh0wer last night are the best we have? It must be the old boy network, must be.

[rowanwitch]

that was my point it would be the not so good ones that got the holiday i.e selection the goodones go play in Germany or holland or somewhere with a chance of winning