A Wake Up Call??

[Jordyboy9]

Surely this present crisis will teach us if anything that our NHS is not the best in the world,as we have been led to believe,
When we get through this and we will,there should be a complete overhaul regardless of cost,those nurses and doctors deserve the best we can give them to do their job,a decent wage and conditions,
If it means paying more tax ,so be it,the way things are at the minute is a national disgrace.

[tonyav]

Why are they a national disgrace, I think that they are doing a fantastic job under very difficult circumstances, the like's of the country as never seen before.

[sanmac]

If you Google "Which country has the best health care system", you will find quite often the NHS is not listed as the best in the world.

[pixie374]

So do I. Doctors already get very well paid. Nurses do, according to experience and qualifications. I pay plenty of tax already, and while I would prefer them to reprioritise it, I don't see any reason to pay more.

[Canary42]

Government Policy for last 10 years :-

*Spent the entire decade wantonly slashing the NHS budget for purely ideological reasons

*Closed hospitals, A&E units, maternity wards, and walk-in centres

*Had a vicious pitched battle with the junior doctors

*Scrapped the NHS bursary meaning new NHS nurses have to rack up tens of thousands in unpayable student debts

*Got rid of 17,000 NHS hospital beds

*Drove tens of thousands of EU citizens out of working in the NHS with the Brexit disaster

*Flogged off £millions in NHS property to private developers

*Handed £billions in NHS services to unscrupulous private profiteers.

And they cheered in the House when they gleefully denied NHS and emergency service workers a pay rise just days after the Grenfell Tower catastrophe (see below).

[johnny.5]

yes
but not tax national insurance

we could also call for the national lottery to be 50% of all proceeds going to nhs trusts and support groups the other 50 % to good causes arts etc. etc.

[fiction-factory]

If we are nowhere near the best system then paying more tax to do more of the same may not be the best way forward.
I'm not aware of any health system anywhere in the world that has been able to absorb comfortably the huge increase in workloads due to Covid. I certainly don't think highly trained doctors and nurses would want to be sitting around for half the time just in case another pandemic comes along

[ToraToraTora]

stop slagging off the NHS, it's the best in the world, not for the treatment perhaps but for the ethos. Do not kin start me..... especially now.

[fiction-factory]

What is the UK's expenditure on the NHS, Canary?
What was it when the NHS was at its best?

[ladybirder]

God you look gorgeous when you're angry TTT. You didn't last week!

[anneasquith]

Calm down ttt. :-)

[ToraToraTora]

would you rather have the US system? where they charge you a bag to cflip you kin toe nails and the insurance welch on it for the slightest reason. Still the anti British sqad will be along soon to back you up.

[anneasquith]

Jourdain ?

[royfromaus]

TTT as told you, Jordy. end of.

[ToraToraTora]

take no notice of canary all he does is diss the country because his commie buddy lost.

[Cloverjo]

I think people here have misread or misunderstood Jordy’s point

//those nurses and doctors deserve the best we can give them to do their job//

[ToraToraTora]

I tried to call a truce with the lefty/anti British/kin idiots/scum/etc but they just can't help it can they, so as you have no doubt gathered the gloves are off. They sowed the wind....

[royfromaus]

You're all heart, TTT

[vulcan42]

If you don't think the NHS is the best in the world, which country has a better health service and how are they coping in this pandemic?

[anneasquith]

Ohhhh. I’m scared now :-)