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I registered with CJB.NET and now I have a domain thingy, and I can upload files, but that's the only thing I can do with it. My site is just a plain white page with "Index" at the top and links to the 2 files I have uploaded beneath it. How do I customise my website? (is it a website?) I can't find anywhere on CJB.NET where I can do that. I'm gonna go and have another look.
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Basially what you have is storage space on CJB.NET's server. In order to make it look like a webpage you have to use either HTML or software designed to create webpages
You can learn about HTML here
http://snowwhite.it.brighton.ac.uk/~mas/mas/courses/html /html_fr1.html
or at any of the thousands of Webpages you may find on an internet search
or you could use something like Microsoft Frontpage (boo!!!) or Macromedia products. Both of those are very expensive and others may have information on cheaper alternatives
You can learn about HTML here
http://snowwhite.it.brighton.ac.uk/~mas/mas/courses/html /html_fr1.html
or at any of the thousands of Webpages you may find on an internet search
or you could use something like Microsoft Frontpage (boo!!!) or Macromedia products. Both of those are very expensive and others may have information on cheaper alternatives
the server will be setup to automatically load a certain page when you goto your website, often index.htm. sometimes it's home.htm. it will tell you somewhere.
so if you goto domain.com/, it will look for domain.com/index.htm. if it isn't there, it'll show you what you see. otherwise, it'll load index.htm
so if you goto domain.com/, it will look for domain.com/index.htm. if it isn't there, it'll show you what you see. otherwise, it'll load index.htm
Oh, fo3nix, you and I posted at the same time. I don't really understand what you're saying. When I go to my site, in the address bar it says rubysoho.cjb.net, and that's it. It doesn't say index.htm anywhere in the address bar. Nor does it on domain.com's homepage. What I want to know is how do I edit and customise my main page? That HTML thing is great, but where can I actually use it on my mainpage?
I don't know if there's anything different about CJB.NET than anyother ISP, and I've never used it my self.
When I set up my now defunct website. I had to create a webpage (which I did with Macromedia Dreamweaver) and then upload my opening webpage as a file which had to be called index.htm. Typing the webaddress then allowed me to see what I had designed offline online. Why not experiment a little by messing about with the HTML in wordpad, saving it as a file called index.htm and then opening that file in your Internet Browser? If you are happy with it upload your website and see if comes up. Just one more word.....sometimes a takes a while for the index.htm file to become operational afer you've uploaded it.
Hope this makes sense and helps.
When I set up my now defunct website. I had to create a webpage (which I did with Macromedia Dreamweaver) and then upload my opening webpage as a file which had to be called index.htm. Typing the webaddress then allowed me to see what I had designed offline online. Why not experiment a little by messing about with the HTML in wordpad, saving it as a file called index.htm and then opening that file in your Internet Browser? If you are happy with it upload your website and see if comes up. Just one more word.....sometimes a takes a while for the index.htm file to become operational afer you've uploaded it.
Hope this makes sense and helps.
OK just checked out your site.
you have two images uploaded, but no html page. to make a website to show the images on (like this very site), you need a html page. look at the end of this address... it ends in ".html" because it's a html page.
so try typing this into notepad (notepad, not microsft word or some other word processor.. it has to be a plain, boring text editor):
<html>
<head>
<title>my first web page</title>
</head>
<body>
<img src="http://users.cjb.net/rubysoho/avatarhell_strawberrymurde r_pikachu!.gif">
<img src="http://users.cjb.net/rubysoho/benjijoelpose3.gif">
</body>
</html>
now save that (we call that "language" between the < and > "html") as "index.htm" (without the quotes). and upload it.
now when you goto your site, do you see the images straight away?
you have two images uploaded, but no html page. to make a website to show the images on (like this very site), you need a html page. look at the end of this address... it ends in ".html" because it's a html page.
so try typing this into notepad (notepad, not microsft word or some other word processor.. it has to be a plain, boring text editor):
<html>
<head>
<title>my first web page</title>
</head>
<body>
<img src="http://users.cjb.net/rubysoho/avatarhell_strawberrymurde r_pikachu!.gif">
<img src="http://users.cjb.net/rubysoho/benjijoelpose3.gif">
</body>
</html>
now save that (we call that "language" between the < and > "html") as "index.htm" (without the quotes). and upload it.
now when you goto your site, do you see the images straight away?
Thanks a million, hinge, and thank you for such clearly worded instructions, fo3nix. I think I understand it now. Just one more question though; on some other cjb sites, they manage to have links on their site, that open new windows. Any ideas how I do that? I just think it'd be useful if I post any drawings on my site. The whole site doesn't have to be on the one page does it? How do I open new sections? [I'm really sorry for taking up so much of your time with my dumb questions, I'm just not familiar with this stuff]
Don't worry about asking for help - that's why its here! I just looked at your page - its looking good already!
Ok, If you want to link to another page on your website, and lets say its a page about great guitars. first make your page just like you did for your index.htm page, then save it with a different name file name eg greatguitars.htm
Then open your index.htm page and edit it to include somewhere you fancy <A HREF="http://www.rubysoho.cjb.net/greatguitars.htm">"heres a link to great guitars"
</A>
The HTML tell the browser that the phrase "heres a link to great guitars" is linked to the file at the address "http://www.rubysoho.cjb.net/greatguitars.htm". and clicking it takes you there.
Of course the address can be anything, and so could your link announcement.
EG on the great guitar page you could put a link that takes you back to the main page and it would look like this
<A HREF="http://www.rubysoho.cjb.net/index.htm">"Back to my Homepage"
</A>
You can see the tutorial on this and other sorts of lnks at http://snowwhite.it.brighton.ac.uk/~mas/mas/courses/html /html_fr1.html and click on the link marked Basic HTML. on that page is a menu. Click on the one called Hyper text links.
Think that's right, the goodnews is that fo3nix will correct me if I'm wrong!
I shall add your page to my favourites and watch it grow. I play blues guitar so expect to see lots of info on guitars!!
Good luck.
Ok, If you want to link to another page on your website, and lets say its a page about great guitars. first make your page just like you did for your index.htm page, then save it with a different name file name eg greatguitars.htm
Then open your index.htm page and edit it to include somewhere you fancy <A HREF="http://www.rubysoho.cjb.net/greatguitars.htm">"heres a link to great guitars"
</A>
The HTML tell the browser that the phrase "heres a link to great guitars" is linked to the file at the address "http://www.rubysoho.cjb.net/greatguitars.htm". and clicking it takes you there.
Of course the address can be anything, and so could your link announcement.
EG on the great guitar page you could put a link that takes you back to the main page and it would look like this
<A HREF="http://www.rubysoho.cjb.net/index.htm">"Back to my Homepage"
</A>
You can see the tutorial on this and other sorts of lnks at http://snowwhite.it.brighton.ac.uk/~mas/mas/courses/html /html_fr1.html and click on the link marked Basic HTML. on that page is a menu. Click on the one called Hyper text links.
Think that's right, the goodnews is that fo3nix will correct me if I'm wrong!
I shall add your page to my favourites and watch it grow. I play blues guitar so expect to see lots of info on guitars!!
Good luck.
http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp
another good tutorial on HTML (btw everything above that hinge1967 said is correct).
Basically, a website is like a cake. you start with the first layer, the structure of the site. This means you tell it what are pictures, what bits are titles, what bits are paragraphs of text, etc. This is commonly written in a language called HTML. Without this, you have nothing.
Then you move onto a presentation layer. This is the next layer of the cake, and lets you make the text different colours, different sizes, and all sorts of thigs. Everything that can be classed as "style" or "design" of the site goes here. It's like the jam filling; very important! This is commonly written in a language called CSS.
Then you have often the final piece of cake. The "behaviour" layer, as I call it. This is optional, but allows for neat features of the site, like if you ask for an email address on your website, then you can use this layer to check that it's a valid email address, etc. All sorts of things like that.
When you write the behaviour layer so that it can dynamically change the structure layer (by dynamically I mean after the structure layer has been loaded), we call this DHTML; For Dyanamic HTML.
......
another good tutorial on HTML (btw everything above that hinge1967 said is correct).
Basically, a website is like a cake. you start with the first layer, the structure of the site. This means you tell it what are pictures, what bits are titles, what bits are paragraphs of text, etc. This is commonly written in a language called HTML. Without this, you have nothing.
Then you move onto a presentation layer. This is the next layer of the cake, and lets you make the text different colours, different sizes, and all sorts of thigs. Everything that can be classed as "style" or "design" of the site goes here. It's like the jam filling; very important! This is commonly written in a language called CSS.
Then you have often the final piece of cake. The "behaviour" layer, as I call it. This is optional, but allows for neat features of the site, like if you ask for an email address on your website, then you can use this layer to check that it's a valid email address, etc. All sorts of things like that.
When you write the behaviour layer so that it can dynamically change the structure layer (by dynamically I mean after the structure layer has been loaded), we call this DHTML; For Dyanamic HTML.
......
......
You can even push the boat out further and add extra layers underneath the structure layer. The layers i've told you about are commonly called the "client side". This is the bit a visitor to the website can see. The extra layers that can be placed underneath are called the "server side". This, fairly obviously, is because they are on the server side of things, and can't be seen by your visitors. You can use these layers to do more advanced things I'm not even going to mention.
You can read tutorials on everything here at the above site i've linked to. I suspect the HTML tutorials will suffice for you though, for now. Many, web developers combine the structure and presentation layers into one (all within the HTML). This is bad practice, but if very common. I suspect this will be fine for your needs though (even though I'd try and set you against it).
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You can even push the boat out further and add extra layers underneath the structure layer. The layers i've told you about are commonly called the "client side". This is the bit a visitor to the website can see. The extra layers that can be placed underneath are called the "server side". This, fairly obviously, is because they are on the server side of things, and can't be seen by your visitors. You can use these layers to do more advanced things I'm not even going to mention.
You can read tutorials on everything here at the above site i've linked to. I suspect the HTML tutorials will suffice for you though, for now. Many, web developers combine the structure and presentation layers into one (all within the HTML). This is bad practice, but if very common. I suspect this will be fine for your needs though (even though I'd try and set you against it).
[sorry, my post had to be cut]
Wow, thank you guys for being so incredibly helpful. How did you learn this stuff? fo3nix, thank you so much for that last link! hinge1967, you play blues guitar? awesome. I'm such a beginner, still on my very first acoustic guitar. I'll try and update my site as often as I can! Once again, you guys are wonderful. Thank you!
well firstly i've been developing websites (with a definite leaning to semantically-correct, standards-compliant code) for about 4 years now. it takes time to learn stuff. and it's not just the code. all the browsers have their problems (IE especially), so you often have to learn their shortcomings and code around them. all sorts of things.
also, there are many blogs in the web-dev circle. read them from time to time, and you'll pick up things that are being thought about now, stuff that isn't in any book.
also, there are many blogs in the web-dev circle. read them from time to time, and you'll pick up things that are being thought about now, stuff that isn't in any book.
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