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MichaelZZ: I have and I did; got it wrong here though. Thanks for the advise though.
derek-33: I did say no discussion I just want to! I've been in avionics engineering for over 65 years.
TheChair: I know, it makes it easier for me as well.
donny48: Nice try but these are what I kept ending up with. Good to see you here as well as in Quizzes.....
alavahalf: Thanks for not asking and the link was another good try. I shall make my own from the .5mm copper sheet on your suggested link; which gets you a best answer.