More Suspended From Labour Over The Whatsapp Debarcle

[youngmafbog]

oh dear more Labour nasties!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8yexjrm05o

There fixed it for you TTT.

 

[chelle7272]

They shoud have deleted them like Boris did....

[nicebloke1]

There will always be bad apples, these are for sure bad, BUT, KS has got rid of them without spending months trying to defend them, theres nothing to defend. Gone.

[ProfessorMaisie]

This is from an article in yesterday's Guardian -

'In further messages seen by the Guardian, Gwynne refers to a constituent as a “grade-A ***” and says: “The public are ***. I know, I’ve met them …”He also described a constituent as “an illiterate retard”...'.

(*If the swearwords in the quoted sections are censored, the first rhymes with 'anchor' and the second with 'Casserole'.)

Gwynne isn't a fringe player, he has friends in high places (Corbyn, Andy Burnham, Starmer) and some people might wonder if they secretly share his views - especially those people from predominantly working class areas like Tameside.

[ProfessorMaisie]

Even my second 'rhymes with' was censored! Our censor needs to get out more (the poor innocent creature).

Try glass poles (in a plummy accent) for number two.

 

[gramps85]

13.56 Yes, but how many more of them are there?

[nicebloke1]

No idea, have you?

[ProfessorMaisie]

Well, since the middle class completely took over the Labour party back in the 1980's I'd guess something like 75% of all Labour Party members hold similar views (roughly the same as for the number of middle class people in the general populace who openly despise working class people, I'd think).

Just look at what passes for working class life in TV drama and documentaries these days - and the myriad phrases used to insult them that manage to get past all of the filters with no trouble at all.

[nicebloke1]

Interesting. 

[youngmafbog]

//since the middle class completely took over the Labour part//

No they didnt the right-on liberal elites did.

// the same as for the number of middle class people in the general populace who openly despise working class people//

These days that is rubbish.  Classes have pretty much merged even the upper classes have been 'infiltrated' by the Nouveau riche, what excatly is "working class" anyway? or for that matter Middle class?

[youngmafbog]

For once I agree with nb @ 13:56.

 

[ProfessorMaisie]

Where do the ''right-on liberal elites'' come from, I wonder?

As for class, a little research might help -

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0038038513481128

[Spungle]

More Labour scumbags?  How surprising.

[ToraToraTora]

Thanks dunno what went wrong with mine!

[ProfessorMaisie]

Further observations on 'how the other half (apparently) live' in The Times today -

'Gwynne was forthright about his criticism of constituents. He said of one that he had “positive visions of him getting mown down” by a bin lorry. Of another (he) wrote “She then said ‘you’re all a waste of space, you do nothing round here. My street is a ***hole’.” He said he replied: “It is a ***hole and you *** well live in it!” And walked off.” When the angry woman asked him to repeat himself, Gwynne said he told her: “‘You heard, you live in a ***hole love’ and stuck the Vs up at her”...'

*(I've censored this myself - most should be obvious, the other involves that particular four-letter word')

[Old_Geezer]

Be fair, we've not met his constituents.

[ProfessorMaisie]

Looks like you're quite happy going along with The Times ''forthright'' comment, whereas I'm inclined to read the comments as rude, arrogant and dismissive. But I'm quite sure there will be certain sections of that community that are more respectfully dealt with by their Labour representatives.

[THECORBYLOON]

"But I'm quite sure there will be certain sections of that community that are more respectfully dealt with by their Labour representatives"

Would you care to elaborate?

[ProfessorMaisie]

You know what I mean - you're another single-subject ABer after all. Try contributing to the thread as a whole for once.

[THECORBYLOON]

I might think I know what you mean but I might be wrong, mightn't I?