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salmaniakhan | 17:07 Thu 12th Apr 2007 | Getting there
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if somebody caught for theft and go to police station and they he paid penality fee and he get caution as well does it mean he got criminal record or not as far i know it will stay in police record b'coj its not as serious it will happen in uk in 2005 he got indian passport if he wants to go to usa for two weeks as a tourist so in this case is us embassy will know tat he is got police record what he wil do
what difference between police caution and criminal record
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You've asked this question twice before. I don't believe anyone has really understood you, but here goes:

If you've been cautioned you've been arrested, If you've been arrested for a crime of moral turpitude (which theft definitely is) you are ineligible for a US visa without getting a waiver of ineligibility. To get such a waiver you have to apply for a visa and may well be turned down.

If you don't declare it on your visa application and the US Embassy make their own checks and find out you will be turned down and banned from the USA for life (well 10 or 20 years anyway)

If you are asking whether the US Embassy do make such checks - I don't know. I do know they make more checks than they used to.
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OTH try this

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml =/news/2007/01/07/ncrime07.xml

You may not have a criminal record, but your description of the incident is so muddled it's difficult to tell.

I would think from the USA point of view you do, though.
As a serving police officer i can answer your question thus: A caution is not a criminal conviction, you can only get a conviction by appearing in court and being found guilty, even if the court decide that you need not pay a penalty, i.e. they give you an absolute or a conditional discharge. You do not have to disclose a caution unless the question specifically asks if you have received a caution, in which case you should answer it honestly. In my experience the USA will not be interested in a caution for theft. They
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