cimes and visas

[gem69a]

can anyone explain to me what moral turpitude means because i have no idea

[B Rubble]

Hi gem69a

dictionary def. of turpitude
noun formal depravity; wickedness.

ORIGIN
C15: from French, or from Latin turpitudo, from turpis 'disgraceful, base'.

Therefore Moral depravity or Moral Wickedness

[dzug]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_turpitude

is a source of varying relaibility.

[gem69a]

thankyou so much that was very helpful so does that mean crimes that are not involving moral turpitude are ok to enter us without a visa

[Buenchico]

The US embassy website states that anyone who has ever been arrested (irrespective of the type of crime involved and even if they were totally innocent) is ineligible to enter the USA under the Visa Waiver Program:
http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/niv/ vwp.html

As has been frequently pointed out, here on AB, the US authorities have no direct access to UK criminal records. Several people have posted to state that they've entered the USA , under the VWP, simply by 'forgetting' about their arrests and/or convictions.

If you do decide to apply for a visa, you need to be aware that the process can take 5 or 6 months. For much of that time, your passport will be held by the US authorities, effectively barring you from international travel.

As you're obviously aware, the US authorities are mainly interested in crimes of 'moral turpitude'. The problem is that there's no fixed definition of what that involves. For example, the Pennsylvania criminal code states that it includes (among other things) "conduct done knowingly contrary to justice, honesty or good morals":
http://pacode.com/secure/data/022/chapter237/s 237.9.html That seems to embrace the vast majority of crimes.

Chris

[BBWCHATT]

http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/visa_1750.htm l


http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode0 8/usc_sec_08_00001182----000-.html

Exception Clause (i)(I) shall not apply to an alien who committed only one crime if�
(I) the crime was committed when the alien was under 18 years of age, and the crime was committed (and the alien released from any confinement to a prison or correctional institution imposed for the crime) more than 5 years before the date of application for a visa or other documentation and the date of application for admission to the United States, or
(II) the maximum penalty possible for the crime of which the alien was convicted (or which the alien admits having committed or of which the acts that the alien admits having committed constituted the essential elements) did not exceed imprisonment for one year and, if the alien was convicted of such crime, the alien was not sentenced to a term of imprisonment in excess of 6 months (regardless of the extent to which the sentence was ultimately executed).
(B) Multiple criminal convictions
Any alien convicted of 2 or more offenses (other than purely political offenses), regardless of whether the conviction was in a single trial or whether the offenses arose from a single scheme of misconduct and regardless of whether the offenses involved moral turpitude, for which the aggregate sentences to confinement were 5 years or more is inadmissible.
(C) Controlled substance traffickers
Any alien who the consular officer or the Attorney General knows or has reason to believe�
(i) is or has been an illicit trafficker in any controlled substance or in any listed chemical (as defined in section 802 of title 21), or is or has been a knowing aider, a

[BBWCHATT]

(ii) is the spouse, son, or daughter of an alien inadmissible under clause (i), has, within the previous 5 years, obtained any financial or other benefit from the illicit activity of that alien, and knew or reasonably should have known that the financial or other benefit was the product of such illicit activity,
is inadmissible.
(D) Prostitution and commercialized vice
Any alien who�
(i) is coming to the United States solely, principally, or incidentally to engage in prostitution, or has engaged in prostitution within 10 years of the date of application for a visa, admission, or adjustment of status,
(ii) directly or indirectly procures or attempts to procure, or (within 10 years of the date of application for a visa, admission, or adjustment of status) procured or attempted to procure or to import, prostitutes or persons for the purpose of prostitution, or receives or (within such 10-year period) received, in whole or in part, the proceeds of prostitution, or
(iii) is coming to the United States to engage in any other unlawful commercialized vice, whether or not related to prostitution,
is inadmissible.
(E) Certain aliens involved in serious criminal activity who have asserted immunity from prosecution
Any alien�
(i) who has committed in the United States at any time a serious criminal offense (as defined in section 1101 (h) of this title),
(ii) for whom immunity from criminal jurisdiction was exercised with respect to that offense,
(iii) who as a consequence of the offense and exercise of immunity has departed from the United States, and
(iv) who has not subsequently submitted fully to the jurisdiction of the court in the United States having jurisdiction with respect to that offense,
is inadmissible.

[BBWCHATT]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_turpitude

[BBWCHATT]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_turpitude

If you go to the above link and find the word "web site" after US State department's - I think this link gives the definitive answer on what is considered to be moral turpitude:

Interpretation of Moral Turpitude
The actual definition of moral turpitude is a lot narrower than many people think, and there is a full definition available for immigration purposes from the US State department's web site. The following is based mainly on material from that source.