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crabbitwire | 17:33 Wed 09th Feb 2011 | Getting there
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i have a conviction for being caught in posession of about 3grams of cocaine and was fined £100 for it,can or will it prevent me going to las vegas for a weeks holiday?
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i know i must fill in an esta form then take it from there is that correct my friend?
Why does everyone with a criminal conviction want to go to America?
You`ll feel quite at home when you get there though. Their border control people treat everyone like criminals.
correct and they check at visa time......
before granting the authority to enter on your passport....
How long ago was the conviction?
Many people "forget" they had any convictions when filling the esta in. You're not exactly the Sicilian Mafia and will have no problem if you don't mention it.
It CAN prevent you going to Las Vegas - whether it will is a bit more questionable.

If you apply for an ESTA and answer the question about crimes of moral turpitude/involving controlled substances truthfully you will be refused the ESTA and told to apply for a visa.

If you lie about the conviction you will probably get your ESTA - it doesn't AFAIK do any in-depth checks, just that the answers are 'acceptable' and that your passport is not on the stolen list. When you get to the US they will scan your passport and check you against a list, supplied by the UK government, of known criminals, etc. How serious your crime has to be to get you on that list - pass. If you are on that list they will question you and almost certainly refuse you entry. You will be kept, shackled, until you can be flown home. If you are not on that list they'' let you in.

So to avoid that risk you apply for a visa. Bad luck - you are ineligible for one because of your crime. That's not necessarily the end of the road - they may decide to apply for a 'waiver of ineligibility' on your behalf. The longer ago this happened (and particularly if you were a juvenile at the time) the more likely you are to get that visa.
As Dzug2 states, you could 'chance it' and apply for an ESTA. (According to the rules on the US Embassy's website, you ceased to be eligible for visa-free entry to the USA at the moment when you were arrested. It wouldn't have even mattered if you were totally innocent). The US authorities don't have direct access to UK criminal records, so you might be able to get into the USA by simply keeping quiet about your conviction. However certain information is passed on by the UK authorities, and the US immigration service might still get to know about your conviction.

One possible route for information indirectly finding out about convictions is that UKBA officials, at your departure airport, might note that your passport is 'flagged' on their system as being held by someone convicted of possession of Class A drugs. They might then check whether you've got the necessary visa. If you've not, they might either advise the airline (who could be heavily fined by the US authorities if they permitted you to travel without the correct documentation) or the US immigration service.

If you decide to go 'by the book', and apply for a visa, you need to be aware that the US Immigration & Nationality Act automatically bars you from entering the USA. So, in the first instance, the US Embassy would have to reject your application. However it could then be referred to Washington, as an application for a 'waiver of permanent ineligibility'. The whole process takes a minimum of 5 months, with longer waits frequently being reported here on AB. (The longest wait I've seen was one of 15 months, for someone who'd been convicted twice for driving without insurance. He had to wait 15 months before hearing that his application for a visa had been refused).

Chris
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thanks every1 for your help,i know its not a major crime but its annoying having it on my record and pondering whether to just get an esta and take my chance and go to vegas.
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squarebear my conviction was bout a year ago. you reckon i would be cool to go with esta if i dont declare conviction then yeah?
Unfortunately 'major' is not a decisive factor here - 'moral turpitude' is.

I'd say Chris' estimates of the time taken to get a visa (if successful) are on the pessimistic side. 2 to 3 months (from the interview - which will be with a specialist officer, not a standard one, and has to be booked with a longer wait time than a standard one) might be possible if they take the view 'not that serious and a long time ago' (if it was a long time ago). But it can certainly take longer.

I'm sure people lie and get away with it. Equally they lie and get caught. No idea on the statistics, so I'm not going to offer 'advice'.

Two points - if you lie and get caught you will be unable to visit the US for 10 maybe 15 years. If you are refused a visa you can apply again - and they may offer advice on when it's worth reapplying. And you can appeal (about a visa - not about a visa waiver) though I believe it's an expensive process
Just seen your post about it being a year ago. I don't think you stand a chance of a visa - so it's lying (with the attendant risks) or not going.
I personally would if I were you and claim ignorance if they catch you.
Ignorance will not stop you being deported.
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man this is torture,i know a few people who hav been in similar positions and got through so i suppose i make a decision on taking a chance with esta or dont go. thanks again people,keep info coming if any1 has different opinions,cheers.
That's the gamble. If they catch you, you may get deported. You say you are going to Vegas so do you fancy your luck at the airport?
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well as u say i should hav no problem if i dont mention it and
(beuenchico)chris says i may get there by keeping quiet,its my call i suppose...
Good luck with whatever you decide to do. If you do go though, check out a show called KA at the MGM. Best show I have ever seen.
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cool,thanks again

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