Just Curious - Screaming Baby In 1St Class

[Smowball]

Am on a Virgin train right now and am sat in 1st class. Very posh lol - all China and cutlery lol ( it was booked as a surprise). There is a family also in this carriage with a screaming baby who hasn't stopped. It doesn't bother me as I have grandchildren but everyone looks most annoyed and keep tutting. Just wondered your thoughts as they are all clearly miffed at paying for 1st class and can't hear themselves think lol.

[Smowball]

Joeluke - I mentioned the 1st class as it is mainly full of businessmen with their laptops out and plugged in who all appear to be trying to work on the journey and I'm guessing that they thought it would be quieter in here

[ummmm]

A good majority of my family live in Ireland. Should I not be able to visit them in case my baby cries?

Ridiculous.

[joeluke]

Some mothers know how to calm and pacify a screaming baby, others haven’t a clue how to and resort to constantly trying to shove it’s dummy into it’s mouth as they see the dummy as the only thing which they think pacifies all babies reasons for crying

[ummmm]

And what if the baby is in pain, Joe, we can't predict these things.

[Tilly2]

I think New Judge has his tongue in his cheek. :-)

[stuey]

New Judge's post at 1343 Trumps all others.

[joeluke]

ummmm......that's when the mother reaches into her handbag for Calpol (other child paracetamol products are available)

[New Judge]

"What do you suggest new judge and baldric? Should mother stay at home with baby playing house and not travel until the child learns to doff his cap at his elders?"

Not until he's learnt to doff his cap, but until he's learnt to be quiet (hence the age limit). Though a possible solution exists for train travel as I pointed out earlier.

[ummmm]

I never traveled with calpol in my changing bag. I would rather listen to a baby cry than see them loaded with unnecessary drugs.

NJ - how do children learn things if they can't experience them?

The attitude to children in this country (by some) is shocking.

[Islay]

I agree unmmm children whilst learning boundaries also need to be allowed to stretch and learn by making mistakes

[Gromit]

Presumably the baby has as much right to be there as they do.

I am just wondering how they can hear the baby with their heads up their ***?

[EcclesCake]

I don't think NJ has yet had his lunch, does anyone have a slice of pizza or a bowl of pasta they could offer him?

[ummmm]

I've taken mine abroad when they were little (baby and toddlers) and the attitude is completely different. They are more likely to offer to help than tut tut and roll their eyes.

When a baby can't talk their only way of communicating is through crying.

[Islay]

Careful unmmm your showing you new age mummy side!! ;-)

[Smowball]

Agree with ummmm- when I've been abroad and a baby/child has screamed or cried it's normally the staff in various restaurants who come to help calm the child. They don't do it here lol

[ichkeria]

Get the champagne edirt to hit it over the head with an empty bottle of bollinger.
And be glad you aren't stuck with the screaming children in Aleppo.

[ichkeria]

Champagne 'waiter'
And lol Gromit

[New Judge]

“NJ - how do children learn things if they can't experience them?”

“I agree unmmm children whilst learning boundaries also need to be allowed to stretch and learn by making mistakes.”

“When a baby can't talk their only way of communicating is through crying.”

Couldn’t agree more with any of the above. But screaming babies should not be permitted on long distance travel where their fellow travellers cannot escape it. (I’m not talking about a five minute bus ride to the shops). There’s scarcely few circumstances where young children must be taken on such long journeys. It’s usually that the parents want to go, not that they need to go. It’s simply not fair to impose such a din on others in confined spaces. They most certainly should not be permitted in premium cabins or coaches where passengers have paid (often very much) over the odds for a bit of extra comfort and peace. Of course all parents love their children and think the world revolves around them. Alas not everybody is so enamoured.

“And be glad you aren't stuck with the screaming children in Aleppo.”

Yes I am. But that’s hardly relevant here.

[douglas9401]

Hiya, I'm not a member but is Mumsnet always like this?

[atalanta]

You should have tried travelling with my father when he was long-distance-train commuting regularly. He would sit down, close his eyes ( like all the other men. Almost all men in those days) And he'd start making a noise like the world coming to an end. That man could snore for Britain in the Snoring Olympics. He always woke everyone else in the carriage. If looks could kill ! They were all furious, but helpless. Nobody ever did anything about it. Well, there wasn't anything they could do, was there. If he ever woke, he'd go straight back to sleep and make an even worse noise, if that was possible.