Travelling With An Expired Passport .....

[Gizmonster]

My missus' sister and her partner are flying to Spain tomorrow and he only realised yesterday that his passport expired a few weeks ago.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you couldn't travel abroad using an expired passport. However, they've been in touch with Jet2 and they've informed them that they'll be okay and he can use his expired passport.

Eh?? Am I missing something here??

[murraymints]

whilst we are still in the EU ID is sufficient so old passport is ok

[yogi-bear]

Hi Giz

I have never known anyone travel on an expired passport, and he should have used today to get an emergency temporary one for travel tomorrow.
If Jet2 have said it would be ok, never heard that and think they're wrong....certainly be will have problems when he gets to Customs passport control in Spain.

[yogi-bear]

News to me, MM.......hi btw hope you're well x
Getting ready to See Gary Numan tonight....meal first :-)

[ichkeria]

Certainly not recommended.
Asking the airline is not the way to go. It might do for their check-in desk as proof of identity perhaps although even then they shouldn’t be telling you it’s ok for border checks.

[murraymints]

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/eu-citizen/index_en.htm

[jno]

we're not in Schengen, Minty

[THECORBYLOON]

From your link, "When travelling to or from a non-Schengen country you must show a valid ID or passport (Obligatory for Swedish citizens). Before travelling, check what documents you must have to travel outside your home country and to enter the non-Schengen country you plan to visit."

As the UK is a non-Schengan country, a valid ID or passport must be used.

[fiction-factory]

I'd check again.
UK is not in Schengen area. Countries may still accept ID but according to MM's link each country specifies the ID it will accept in the absence of passports- I think Spain requires an official identity card and UK doesn't have one

[Samuraisan]

I suppose the Spanish Border Guardia Civil may not notice the date, but I would think it's a bit of a risk and I don't think I would take it.

[MWG14]

Let us know the outcome please.

[fiction-factory]

When we were in Spain we had to show our passports just to get in a theme park -no other ID was acceptable

[THECORBYLOON]

From the Spanish Embassy in London's website,

"Entry into Spain for stays not exceeding 90 days within a 180-day period is subject to the conditions provided for in Regulation (EU) Nº 2016/399, of the European Parliament and of the Council, of 9 March 2016 on a Union Code on the rules governing the movement of persons across borders (Schengen Borders Code)

 Being in possession of a valid passport or travel document

The document must be valid for al least three months following the projected exit from the territory of the Members States, and must have been issued within the last ten years. Citizens from any State of the European Union, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein only need a valid national identity document or passport. Citizens from the United Kingdom and Ireland will require a passport since their countries are not members of the Schengen Area."

I think it's clear a valid passport is needed.

[ummmm]

My last holiday I had to google countries which let you in with less than 6 months so I can't see any taking an out of date passport.

They didn't just accept it at check-in either. They had to check it was OK.

[New Judge]

More important than getting into Spain (certainly if I was involved) would be getting back into the UK.

Travelling (or attempting to travel) with an expired passport is extremely foolish. In fact, I doubt you'd succeed in checking in for your outbound flight.

[davebro]

Admittedly some years ago but I have twice flown back to the UK (from Turkey & Canada) with a friend who had lost his passport and not had time to obtain a substitute document.

They had to see the pilot captaining the return plane & get his agreement to board. Presumably he needed to be sure they wouldn't be refused entry by UK border control.

Not recommended though!

[Gizmonster]

Thanks for all the replies .... a quick update:

Not that it makes any difference, his passport expired in January, not a few weeks ago as I originally thought.

Apparently, Jet2 have allowed them to check in using the out-of-date passport .... how does that work??

Looking at the answers on here and reading some of the links, I can only see problems ahead. They might get on the plane at this end, but who knows what will happen when they go through passport control in Spain.

Watch this space and I'll let you know of the outcome .....

[Tilly2]

If it was my partner, I'd kill him!

[jno]

that would be a short-term solution, Tilly

[ichkeria]

Checking in with your passport means nothing. Except that the web page that does the check in probably doesn’t check the expiry date.
You need it for border control. The chances of passport control not checking the expiry date are small I’d say. What happens after that who can say ...

[ummmm]

When we went to check-in the computer flagged the fact that there was only 5 months left on his passport. Then had to go and check it out.