Oh Dear. H S 2 Slower Than Normal Trains.

[Canary42]

The comedy continues . . . .

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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/hs2-services-manchester-may-run-183235594.html?.tsrc=fp_deeplink

[mushroom25]

decisions taken last week also mean that the part of HS2 that is being built to completion will have to be downsized to match the fewer trains that will run on it. for instance the station at Birmingham will be twice the size it needs to be. redesigning it to be smaller when it's already half built will cost millions to correct.

[Old_Geezer]

I'm sure they have it all under control and nothing will derail it this time.

How fast is the replacement bus service ?

[douglas9401]

You do have to wonder how Britain ever had an empire.

[ToraToraTora]

HS2 is nothing to do with speed, it's about increasing capacity to the North.

[ToraToraTora]

"You do have to wonder how Britain ever had an empire." - yes doug, what with all the 5C, lefty, snowflake whining dullards we have today I agree.

[douglas9401]

High Speed 2 is nothing to do with speed?

 

I think there must be a prize for that one.

[ToraToraTora]

It's poorly named, people have focused on the 20 minutes claim but the real purpose is to take passengers off the old line and leave that for freight.

[douglas9401]

Miss! Tora's making stuff up to suit his nonsense again.

[ToraToraTora]

That's the truth dougy sorry if it messes with your lefty agenda.

[Hopkirk]

He's right Doug

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.railpartners.co.uk/our-work/blog/capacity-not-speed-the-crucial-benefit-of-hs2-that-gets-drowned-out

 

[ToraToraTora]

It should be renamed NR2 Northern Railway 2, nothing to do with speed.

[mushroom25]

// High Speed 2 is nothing to do with speed? //

in the planning, no. the problem to be solved is chronic congestion on all 3 mainline routes north from London but especially on the west coast mainline (WCML). the WCML was upgraded for introduction of the pendolinos but it took more than ten years and cost so much that the money ran out before it was finished. the upgrade was intended to future-proof the route until the mid 2020s but the extra capacity had all been used up by 2018. those that claim COVID has slashed train usage clearly doesn't travel on a regular basis - 

https://twitter.com/symeonbrown/status/1710587426681315407

a further upgrade of WCML would likely take years and because it's a working railway would involve severe disruption for the entire duration. so the most practical way to get more capacity is to build new and if you're going to do that, you build it the best you can - HS2.

[douglas9401]

Is 'lefty' to be a random insert to any post that disagrees with your increasingly odd world view, TTT?

 

 

[gulliver1]

How come, France and Spain can build high speed super railways systems and the UK can't.??

[ToraToraTora]

doug: "Is 'lefty' to be a random insert to any post that disagrees with your increasingly odd world view, TTT?" - nothing to do with agreement or not, I and others have told you the facts. You have been hoodwinked by opposition idiots with an agenda. Read what mushroom has said and my links. Perhaps your incorrect view can be corrected before it is too ingrained.

[mushroom25]

// How come, France and Spain can build high speed super railways systems and the UK can't.?? //

they have a rather different attitude to planning processes than found in the UK. the French attitude is, if you're going to drain the swamp, the last people you consult are the crocodiles.

[ToraToraTora]

19:57, gawd elp us the brains trust has stirred.

[gulliver1]

Britains Railway system is so outdated they are thinking of digging up George Stephenson .

[Zacs-Master]

Elton John wrote a song about him once.