David Cameron's Four Key Demands

[tonyav]

To remain in the EU revealed.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/david-camerons-four-key-demands-to-remain-in-the-eu-revealed/ar-AAfk5lu?li=AA59G2

[bookbinder]

If the PM asked me, I'd say that there was only one demand: get us out.

[Jackdaw33]

No need for a demand, merely an imperative; F off, the lot of you.

[tonyav]

His 'demands' don't change my opinion. I want out asap.

[Canary42]

His demands are really only an attempt to garner enough support for a "STAY IN" vote.

I'm not sure that it will be sufficient for most current "GET OUT" voters to change their views.

[bazwillrun]

It doesnt matter what concessions, changes etc he gets now...they would only be temporary and the eussr will only be giving them as a way to bribe us to get a yes stay in vote...

They only have one plan and one end game, to get total control of every possible european nation they can, harmonize everything, finance, tax, laws , military etc etc etc you name it, just one big homeogenous isotropic mass that they tell what to do, when to do it and how to do it !

[Gromit]

Not read them, but they will all be easily achievable. Cameron will claim a victory, but will the the public swallow it.

[tonyav]

Well I for one won't, Gromit.

[Togo]

Out, flood that tunnel, commence fracking forthwith, heighten Hadrians wall by 50yards, double the Navy, seize back our fishing rights, fire up Concord and arm it, send every non dom home ( tell em its for their safety) just like the Ruskies do. Haha .

[tamborine]

With loan goalposts constantly changing for Greece & Spain the EU are desperate for our income & memberdhip. Germany, France & Scandanavia will suffer huge social exes due to the Syrian migrants.

Dave is in best position for a 'check mate'.

[Old_Geezer]

Without a demand for each sovereign nation to retain control of its own borders, it is a waste of effort. I'm very unkeen about the ease of money movement too. I don't see why powerful merchants can easily move a country's wealth (that they've attracted to themselves) elsewhere. That ability effectively screws a government's power to run it's own nation's economy effectively.

[bazwillrun]

"effectively screws a government's power to run it's own nation's economy effectively. "

we will cease to be a nation governing its own affairs, the eussr will be doing that...they already govern us to a great or lesser degree, every day they spew out more dictats and laws that we bow down to...

[jim360]

Two of those demands seem to be about ensuring that the status quo is preserved rather than effecting actual change. Indeed the entire package of demands seems to be basically an attempt to stop the European Union from ever being a proper Union. This pretty much ensures that a) it will never work, and b) that it will therefore inevitably collapse. If you are going to have an EU at all then it requires more integration, not less, in order to work effectively (and possibly not even then, of course).

On those terms... well, we'll see what Cameron comes back with. But each time this issue comes up it seems more and more likely that the UK will vote to leave.

[Togo]

//it seems more and more likely that the UK will vote to leave.// jim 360.
But the Scots want to stay in. Sooo if the vote is out that means the 'UNION' is no longer politically legal. Out Out Out.

[janbee]

I want us out asap. If Scotland then wants to stay in , that;s up to them. They want out of the UK and don't want Cameron (who does?!) and they don't want to be ruled by # 10. They want independence....BUT they want to be part of the EU and be ruled by Merkel and Brussels. How is that independence ?

As for Mr Piggy's demands... ha ! Geoffrey Howe was a fierce warrior by comparison. Cammy is the dead sheep. Other animals are available !

[jim360]

We don't know that the Scots do want to stay in for certain until after the vote, although it certainly looks that way.

I'm hopeful that there is a vote to stay in the EU when the time comes -- otherwise, we can expect turmoil as the UK leaves at the same time as facing coming apart itself. I would imagine that the fear of such chaos is likely to tip the balance in favour of staying, though.

[jourdain2]

And that's it?! Pathetic. Out a.s.a.p..

[Peter Pedant]

Four key demands he is going for are:

1) higher pensions ( non contributory ) for all his old etonian chubby faced frenz

2) no IHT for Boris's dad or any one else dying and worth over five mill

3) no state aid for anyone oop t North that is north of the watford southampton line

4) er that is it

am I near ?