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University Fees. I Now Know Why The English Are Upset

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retrocop | 07:00 Tue 20th Oct 2015 | News
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This,along with our groping Oxford debater and diversity expert is what you pay for to lecture you.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/university-lecturer-quits-job-drunkenly-124550061.html#tn03rQ3

Perhaps my children were better off attending the University of Life
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Good morning Retroflic.
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Bonjour mon brave.
Done all the Mail crosswords and pitcherwits next.
Fingers on the keyboard ready. :-)
Mail not delivered yet so I will leave it to you.
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danny
Attention ou c'est la boîte de salade pour vous !!
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Ah Ah. I am in with a chance at last. :-)
08.12 ?. Je ne parle pas Francaise
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Allors. Anuzzer edge I have over you aujourd'hui mais Non parlo Italiano :-)
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danny
I suppose we had better behave ourselves or I will be asked if I should of posted this on chatterbank instead of news by some irascible person!! :-)
Teaches sociology...says it all...thats what all the underachievers and lower classes at my school were pushed into doing
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Baz
Quite true. Just waffle on about nuclear families and other psycho babble and no one will have a clue what you are saying but will agree unless they feel they make themselves feel stupid and of course a lot are but she got her residency correct in the Shetland Isles.
I doubt one or two isolated incidents are going to have a bearing on the fees issue. The fees are wrong because a country should invest in it's greatest intellect, the individuals are contributing years of their life to learn as their contribution.

Whether your children are better in the University of Life will depend on them. Can they take advantage of further education or would that be a waste of time for them. Would they progress better if they used those years building the foundation of their career in employment, proving what they are capable of ?

Both the country and I certainly gained from going to university, but that was before the government shed its responsibility and told folk that society doesn't care enough, and to sort yourselves out. Whilst trying to get all school levers to feel they had to go regardless.
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OG
I would describe that as dumbing down to a large extent. I hear kids working behind the bar,"I am just doing this part time before I go back to Uni"
They actually mean Kilburn Polytechnic or wherever.
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to continue their hairdressing course. :-)
I thought my tuition fees were worth paying. Then again, I haven't actually started paying them yet, so...

It's pretty much all in a name anyway. Apart from some paperwork beforehand, the only real difference I could see between Tuition Fees as implemented now, and a "Graduate Tax" suggested by the NUS, was that one is called a fee and the other is called a tax. The (re)payment conditions were basically the same: capped at a fixed rate per month, only paid beyond a fixed salary (£15k for me, £21k for the last three years or so), (re)payment ended after 35 years or so. I'm not convinced it's worth complaining about. Sure, I'm in some horrifically large-looking amount of debt but it's not all that bad and at the end I got a good degree.

The remainder is perhaps prejudice more than anything else. Is Sociology any less important than a maths degree in practice? I'd like to think so, but beyond a certain point all subjects become too specialised to be applicable in daily life or in most careers outside active research. The main difference is that I enjoy maths a lot more than I would sociology.
well, not attending university obviously did you now harm retro

[ the second case is Uni of Baff which is kinda the University of Life ]
yeah but Jim you did some pretty high powered brain-the-size-of-Jupiter type courses

didja eva meet Hawking ?
When I was at Durham, years ago, before any polys became universities, there was, in one of the toilets, a legend above the toilet roll holder which read: SOCIOLOGY DEGREES. PLEASE TAKE ONE.
seventies Jackie I reckon

salford poly became salford uni

and I hope then all you did in the lavatory was ..... not like nowadays
Never met Hawking properly. Passed him in the main hall a couple of times, we attended the same lecture once. And in a moment that is probably best described as "creepy", I once did some revision at a desk in a corridor, a desk that was 'coincidentally' right outside his office. While he was in it.
Hey Jackdaw! The same notice was in my toilets at Uni! Daughter went to Durham, I didn't, I'll ask her if it was there at her college.

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