Can Osbourne Succeed ......

[Canary42]

..... or is he in cloud-cuckoo land.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34711887

A vital time for our relationship within the EU - and I hope he pulls off a successful outcome.

Difficult to judge just from public statements from Merkel - it would be interesting to be a fly-on-the-wall at the talks, to find out what really goes on.

[wolf63]

Ozzy maybe - that other one (George Osborne) is untrustworthy.

[ToraToraTora]

"....and I hope he pulls off a successful outcome." - PMSL!

[Gromit]

I've always said that whatever the renegotiation yeilds, Cameron will return claiming a big victory.
Even if he does come back with significant reforms, will the public believe him and will it be enough.

[ichkeria]

All a complete waste of time
Most people don't care about the EU and regardless of what emerges from these pointless task, which I suspect are purely for the benefit of the Tory party, a majority are likely to vote for the devil they know in 2017 or whenever.

[bazwillrun]

"Most people don't care about the EU"

oh really ?...id say most people dont care for the eu !

whatever gains or concessions that are made now are only short term as far as the eussr is concerned to try and keep us in ...

they will, if we stay in, get them all back and more...the more being total control over our country which will cease to exist as such...why cant people get that simple easy fact into their heads...

[ichkeria]

"oh really ?...id say most people dont care for the eu ! "

I don't care much for cars but I still drive one. It gets me about :-)

[New Judge]

Quite so, Ikky. But if the car began to impact on every aspect of your life, if it began to dictate, say, where you could go for your shopping and how much you’d pay for it you may well think that perhaps it is not worth the trouble owning it.

I’m amused by the idea of the “best of both worlds”. This implies there are advantages to be gained from EU membership which would not be apparent for non-members. This is not so. There are no benefits from the UK’s membership of the EU which could not be sustained or gained from outside. Furthermore, I believe the EU is actually stifling growth in many of the member nations by its inward looking protectionist policies. I don’t care too much for the other 27 members but I care enormously about the damage being inflicted on the UK. In addition far too much emphasis is placed on the financial aspects. I happen to believe that the UK would be financially far better off free of the burden of a moribund and over-regulated bloc which is intent on ever closer union until nation states effectively cease to exist. But even if it were not, there is much more to consider. In particular there is the huge democratic deficiency that comes with EU membership.

Mr Cameron has not a hope in hell of securing any meaningful and lasting reforms to the UK’s relationship with the EU. The EU will not countenance it. And even if he said he had I certainly trust neither him nor the assorted crooks, sleazebags and slime balls who run the EU enough to believe them.

I simply cannot understand how anybody can suggest that it is in the UK’s interest to remain in an organisation which has shown itself to be so inept and corrupt. It creates fair weather schemes of enormous impact and importance (e.g. the euro and the Schengen Agreement) but then has not a clue how to react when the inevitable and well forecast bad weather comes along. Couple this with its unabashed ambition to see Europe as a single nation presided over by unelected bureaucrats and there is only one way for anyone with any sense to cast their vote. Those afraid of the unknown need only look around. Many nations not only survive but positively thrive outside the EU. There is nothing to be afraid of except the success a "Brexit" will bring.

[Jackdaw33]

If Cameron thinks he can fool the British public with this kind of bull as did Heath and Wilson in 1975 he has another think coming. Once bitten, twice shy.

[SirOracle]

Bookmakers are not often wrong. Showing odds ON that vote for EU referendum will be a YES.

[bazwillrun]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/11972490/Angela-Merkel-urges-Britain-to-stay-in-the-European-Union.html

Who needs who...seems like adolf merkel needs us...surprised not...once they get us in, its the end of our country...and game set and match for them and their empire building dreams

[New Judge]

The very fact that Frau Merkel wants us to stay should be reason enough alone for us to leave.

[tonyav]

Why are they bothering with this faffing around, Lets have the referendum now !.

[ToraToraTora]

As usual, the judge's post at 15:52, is a devastating indictment of a failed, corrupt protectionist amorphourism. It simply beggars belief that there people who still think there is any advantage to being a slave to this protectionist socialist mess. The sooner it collapses the better for all Europeans. Thanks again judge, I'd give you BE but I doubt canary will!