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Have We All Become Too Sensitive?
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Can anyone please explain how they consider the first illustration as a racist image, well on the part of black people at least?
/// Some of the crackers of the day would now be seen as offensively racist, using such terms as ‘sambo’ – while a Black And White collection for another company, Batger & Co, features an exaggerated minstrel-style entertainer. ///
Admittedly that 'S' term is no longer acceptable, but regarding the Black and White collection all one sees is a white person dressed as a 'clown' and the black person dressed as a 'toff'.
Can anyone please explain how they consider the first illustration as a racist image, well on the part of black people at least?
/// Some of the crackers of the day would now be seen as offensively racist, using such terms as ‘sambo’ – while a Black And White collection for another company, Batger & Co, features an exaggerated minstrel-style entertainer. ///
Admittedly that 'S' term is no longer acceptable, but regarding the Black and White collection all one sees is a white person dressed as a 'clown' and the black person dressed as a 'toff'.
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I think AOG has a valid point, namely to question the apparent industry of being offended that we seem to exist in nowadays. And personally I believe that industry is fuelled by speculation about being compensated for said offence.
These historic examples all existed within the context of their times - and we all know they wouldn't be done like that now. AOG, the coloured guy is actually dressed as a music-hall comedy ***, where 'aping the gents' was a thing they were meant to do funnily, because everyone knew they couldn't be real gentlefolk. It's convoluted.
I think AOG has a valid point, namely to question the apparent industry of being offended that we seem to exist in nowadays. And personally I believe that industry is fuelled by speculation about being compensated for said offence.
These historic examples all existed within the context of their times - and we all know they wouldn't be done like that now. AOG, the coloured guy is actually dressed as a music-hall comedy ***, where 'aping the gents' was a thing they were meant to do funnily, because everyone knew they couldn't be real gentlefolk. It's convoluted.
Zacs, to answer your point and be within topic, I think the money boxes were intended at the time to be grotesque, as it was seen as funny to have a grotesque figure of a black person in entertainment. Josephine Baker was a wonderfully talented dancer, but as a woman of colour was encouraged to goof about as that was 'what they did'.
Girls not interested AOG....(muffled explosion of outrage....)
This girl ended up simply taking hold of the tools that interested her and doing it anyway, leading to being viewed as 'not really a girl' at the time, who 'nobody will marry'.
Different times, wrong stuff to do to kids, but like we discussed up above in the thread, all in the context of the times.
This girl ended up simply taking hold of the tools that interested her and doing it anyway, leading to being viewed as 'not really a girl' at the time, who 'nobody will marry'.
Different times, wrong stuff to do to kids, but like we discussed up above in the thread, all in the context of the times.
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/// as it was seen as funny to have a grotesque figure of a black person in entertainment. Josephine Baker was a wonderfully talented dancer, but as a woman of colour was encouraged to goof about as that was 'what they did'. ///
You mentioned Josephine Baker, well I am far from being an expert on her, so I went on youtube and came up with this clip.
Rather than being encouraged to 'goof' in this it appears she has been perfectly accepted into white society, but when the beat of the drums started she couldn't wait to return to her roots.
/// as it was seen as funny to have a grotesque figure of a black person in entertainment. Josephine Baker was a wonderfully talented dancer, but as a woman of colour was encouraged to goof about as that was 'what they did'. ///
You mentioned Josephine Baker, well I am far from being an expert on her, so I went on youtube and came up with this clip.
Rather than being encouraged to 'goof' in this it appears she has been perfectly accepted into white society, but when the beat of the drums started she couldn't wait to return to her roots.
Really enjoyed that clip AOG
It's such an insight into the mindset of the times when it was made. And it adds to the examples used in the thread, because in the time when it was made, a black or coloured man couldn't have had the 'serious romantic lead' that Baker had in that film. There's another layer of troubling association between black and coloured women, and the white-owned entertainments industry, but that's another thread altogether.
Boy, could she dance!
It's such an insight into the mindset of the times when it was made. And it adds to the examples used in the thread, because in the time when it was made, a black or coloured man couldn't have had the 'serious romantic lead' that Baker had in that film. There's another layer of troubling association between black and coloured women, and the white-owned entertainments industry, but that's another thread altogether.
Boy, could she dance!