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ichkeria /// President Assad started slaughtering his citizens before the civil war started, in fact that was the major cause /// Oh so he just thought one day to go out and 'slaughter' one or two of his innocent citizens, for no reason whatsoever, but for the hell of it?
12:29 Sun 20th Dec 2015
AOG puts me in mind of the apocryphal 'Gee Ollie anyone with a name like Hitler can't be all bad'....
Svejk - if Assad has any political affiliation, it is actually towards Soviet Leninism, which is the structure on which the Ba'ath Party is based. Assad is president of the Ba'th Party. I'm confused / amused in equal parts by you repeatedly reverting into simplistic arguments of 'him good - me say so - you bad'. You haven't laid out anything to back your statements other than a Russian press/ prpaganda release.
Having a view that differs from yours - and can be illustrated by examples - doesn't make me a murderer or a traitor, just a sentient human being.
Please give some examples that support your stance that Hitler - sorry, Assad, isn't all bad, and is loved by all Syrians.
Svejk - if Assad has any political affiliation, it is actually towards Soviet Leninism, which is the structure on which the Ba'ath Party is based. Assad is president of the Ba'th Party. I'm confused / amused in equal parts by you repeatedly reverting into simplistic arguments of 'him good - me say so - you bad'. You haven't laid out anything to back your statements other than a Russian press/ prpaganda release.
Having a view that differs from yours - and can be illustrated by examples - doesn't make me a murderer or a traitor, just a sentient human being.
Please give some examples that support your stance that Hitler - sorry, Assad, isn't all bad, and is loved by all Syrians.
If you get your briefings from Russia Today, you are certainly not on the side of right.
The root of the problems in Syria is Russia's economic protectionism. They installed the Ba'th party in Syria so that they could prevent a gas pipeline being built through the country. They want to stop gas from the Arabian Gulf from being piped to Europe as that would compete with Russian gas and drive prices down. It's all about the protection of Gasprom's bottom line as Russia's economy is so heavily dependent on it.
Now in the last few years Saudi Arabia and Qatar have taken the opportunity to try and fight back and end the protectionism by removing the Assad regime. Western nations were supposed to help them get rid of Assad, but thanks to Ed Miliband tactically voting against the coalition government on intervention in Syria, the west was not able to act decisively so the Arabs tried it their own way by creating the Islamic State. But their way isn't working now as IS have their own goals. They know that it would be over for them if they actually got rid of the Assads as the West would then be fully justified in going in with boots on the ground to wipe out the islamism threat. So IS have stopped fighting the Assad regime and are happy to hold the territory that they have. All the West can do is support the non-islamist rebels, mainly the Kurds, in their fight against both IS and the Assad regime.
Russia is quite happy for IS to hold much of the country as no pipeline is gonna get built through an unstable Syria. They just need the Assads to have a presence and so are now fighting only the rebels that are still fighting the Assads, which is not IS.
The root of the problems in Syria is Russia's economic protectionism. They installed the Ba'th party in Syria so that they could prevent a gas pipeline being built through the country. They want to stop gas from the Arabian Gulf from being piped to Europe as that would compete with Russian gas and drive prices down. It's all about the protection of Gasprom's bottom line as Russia's economy is so heavily dependent on it.
Now in the last few years Saudi Arabia and Qatar have taken the opportunity to try and fight back and end the protectionism by removing the Assad regime. Western nations were supposed to help them get rid of Assad, but thanks to Ed Miliband tactically voting against the coalition government on intervention in Syria, the west was not able to act decisively so the Arabs tried it their own way by creating the Islamic State. But their way isn't working now as IS have their own goals. They know that it would be over for them if they actually got rid of the Assads as the West would then be fully justified in going in with boots on the ground to wipe out the islamism threat. So IS have stopped fighting the Assad regime and are happy to hold the territory that they have. All the West can do is support the non-islamist rebels, mainly the Kurds, in their fight against both IS and the Assad regime.
Russia is quite happy for IS to hold much of the country as no pipeline is gonna get built through an unstable Syria. They just need the Assads to have a presence and so are now fighting only the rebels that are still fighting the Assads, which is not IS.
"They installed the Ba'th party in Syria so that they could prevent a gas pipeline being built through the country. "
Hmm, not sure about that scowie. Maybe the Soviet Union was a help to the Arab Socialists back then, but it seems unlikely that they'd have been motivated by concerns about a gas pipeline in the early sixties.
A lot of these conspiracy theories, be they about Russia, the US, Saudi Arabia or whoever, are misguided. Generally interests are served on the hoof, and alliances formed for short term advantage over the enemy of the day. You definitely see that in Syria.
Anyway, I must dash off to tune in to RT's coverage of the Russian attack on Idlib today: 40: civilians killed. Makes you wonder what the difference is between Putin and Al-Baghdadi sometimes.
Hmm, not sure about that scowie. Maybe the Soviet Union was a help to the Arab Socialists back then, but it seems unlikely that they'd have been motivated by concerns about a gas pipeline in the early sixties.
A lot of these conspiracy theories, be they about Russia, the US, Saudi Arabia or whoever, are misguided. Generally interests are served on the hoof, and alliances formed for short term advantage over the enemy of the day. You definitely see that in Syria.
Anyway, I must dash off to tune in to RT's coverage of the Russian attack on Idlib today: 40: civilians killed. Makes you wonder what the difference is between Putin and Al-Baghdadi sometimes.
Assad would lose a fair democratic election anyway as the majority of Syrians are against him. But there is no chance of a *fair* democratic election in Syria. The choice is between allowing Assad/Russia to orchestrate elections in which vast parts of the country are prevented from voting (or just discard/invent votes) and then claim a "fair" victory for Assad, or we try to get rid of both Assad and IS militarily. I vote for the second option ;)
I've been waiting for a chance to use this rather cynical phrase that I have devised and i think now is an appropriate time: Peace is what you get when a war is fought to a conclusion ;)
I've been waiting for a chance to use this rather cynical phrase that I have devised and i think now is an appropriate time: Peace is what you get when a war is fought to a conclusion ;)
Certainly when Lavrov says he wants the 'Syrian people' to decide Syria's future what he really means is : he wants Russia to decide.
The Russians continue to use white phosphorus and cluster bombs on Syria's civilians. But they hold a veto in the UN Security Council, so there's nothing anyone can do.
They should have been cut off from SWIFT by now, but we don't have the stomach for a fight
The Russians continue to use white phosphorus and cluster bombs on Syria's civilians. But they hold a veto in the UN Security Council, so there's nothing anyone can do.
They should have been cut off from SWIFT by now, but we don't have the stomach for a fight
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