Times Saturday 26328

[pomona]

21a One entering Yale, maybe, established ties with US town (4,3) K?Y?E?T

must be KEY WEST but where does west come from?
11a What's Auntie briefly fastened around one? B?B must be BIB from bb(c) with i inside .....but where's the defn?

[1581960]

We have the same answers Pomona, and the same problems!

[mac44]

21a. Key West

[dannyk13]

21a.The West has ties with us.
11a.Bib is fastened around one.
Hope these make sense.

[fiction-factory]

That means using the 'one' twice though danny, doesn't it?

[dannyk13]

Often happens with some setters FF

[ichkeria]

KEY WEST: KEY EST(ablished) around (ties) With

The def in 11ac is:"What's Auntie briefly fastened around one?"

[fiction-factory]

Thanks. I don't like it, danny. Same happened with the mince meat /decimate one yesterday

[dannyk13]

Ickeria's parse is better.

[fiction-factory]

Thanks. I still don't like it but accept it must be right

[Jackdaw33]

Looks as though 'fastened around one' is both part of the wordplay and the definition.

[pomona]

Thanks all - clues not very satisfactory for me either!

[brainiac]

Methinks it's a Dean Mayer !

[scorpiojo]

:))

[ichkeria]

Sometimes the whole clue is also the definition. Nothing wrong with that. Happens a lot

[ShropshireLad]

Auntie is the nickname of the BBC . Hence briefly round one is bib