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Austria is the first to see sense, who next?
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“I doubt it. Ireland, UK, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus and Romania are not party to the Schengen Agreement” Three of those nations are island nations (if you accept Ireland as an island, with its only land border being another non-Schengen nation). The situation for island nations is, thankfully, not quite so critical as for those with land borders with...
10:15 Fri 29th Apr 2016
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I doubt it. Ireland, UK, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus and Romania are not party to the Schengen Agreement, so if one more country opts out, it doesn't mean it will fall apart. Austria does a lot of trade with its neighbours, and doesn't really want to reintroduce a border, so I expect a compromise will take place.
The current immigrant/refugee problem is very serious but it will settle down and be resolved. The UK being in or out of the EU will have an effect for centuries ahead, long after the present problems are forgotten, it is very short sighted to base your vote in the referendum on the current Syrian problem.
Any way as said, we are not and will not be in the Schengen area, we have the Channel and North sea as a natural barrier that can not be 'fenced off'.
In or out of the EU we will always have far more control over our borders than any other EU state!
Any way as said, we are not and will not be in the Schengen area, we have the Channel and North sea as a natural barrier that can not be 'fenced off'.
In or out of the EU we will always have far more control over our borders than any other EU state!
“I doubt it. Ireland, UK, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus and Romania are not party to the Schengen Agreement”
Three of those nations are island nations (if you accept Ireland as an island, with its only land border being another non-Schengen nation). The situation for island nations is, thankfully, not quite so critical as for those with land borders with other Schengen nations.
Four of the six (all bar the UK and Ireland) – along with all new members - are legally bound to join the scheme and will do so in the not too distant.
“The current immigrant/refugee problem is very serious but it will settle down and be resolved.”
Not even the most liberal of observers expects that, Eddie. Most people believe that, so long as Europe allows boats to land then people will come (and even if they don't , people will still come).
“The UK being in or out of the EU will have an effect for centuries ahead, long after the present problems are forgotten,…”
The EU (with or without the UK) will not last for centuries, Eddie. It is doubtful if it will survive the first half of this one. It is an outdated relic of the past which should, and will, be consigned to the dustbin. The only question is how much more damage it will inflict on its hapless members before that happens. Whether the UK wants to be part of it when it is eventually binned is the question people should ask themselves. You are quite right; there’s far more to the question than the Syrian crisis (upon which a “Brexit” will have little influence).
Three of those nations are island nations (if you accept Ireland as an island, with its only land border being another non-Schengen nation). The situation for island nations is, thankfully, not quite so critical as for those with land borders with other Schengen nations.
Four of the six (all bar the UK and Ireland) – along with all new members - are legally bound to join the scheme and will do so in the not too distant.
“The current immigrant/refugee problem is very serious but it will settle down and be resolved.”
Not even the most liberal of observers expects that, Eddie. Most people believe that, so long as Europe allows boats to land then people will come (and even if they don't , people will still come).
“The UK being in or out of the EU will have an effect for centuries ahead, long after the present problems are forgotten,…”
The EU (with or without the UK) will not last for centuries, Eddie. It is doubtful if it will survive the first half of this one. It is an outdated relic of the past which should, and will, be consigned to the dustbin. The only question is how much more damage it will inflict on its hapless members before that happens. Whether the UK wants to be part of it when it is eventually binned is the question people should ask themselves. You are quite right; there’s far more to the question than the Syrian crisis (upon which a “Brexit” will have little influence).
As usual judge an excellent evaluation. I think that the EU must inevitably collapse but we can help by leaving ASAP. That will precipitate a domino effect because those left will baulk at having a much larger subscription to pay. It's only a matter of time before the Twists get uncle of bailing out the bubbles and give up on the whole project anyway. Your firesides will leave shortly after when their farmers demand they keep the CAP going with their own dosh rather than ours. Game over EU dead before I am, hopefully.
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