Ukip; The New United Tory/labour Party?

[youngmafbog]

Swathes of good working people were not represented by their party as were many Tories.

Is there a space for UKIP to fill ?

[Hypognosis]

@youngmafbog

On another thread, I said that, since UKIP's parliamentary side are mostly chips off the Tory block then former Labour members and voters ought to avoid touching them, with a barge-pole.

UKIP are welcome to champion the cause of the working people but this is no different to the way the Tories shamelessly shop for votes by appealing to workers' innate hatred of the underclass and the criminal class. At the same time, I'm sure that, as a matter of ideology, they'd like to dismantle the NHS, scrap paid maternity leave, reduce the number of paid holiday days per year, increase zero-hours contracts and innumerable other ways of pushing workers' rights back to the 1920s, before we reach the 2020s.

I've left immigration issues off the workers's hatelist so as to highlight it separately. UKIP logic is that "immigrants depress wage levels, therefore hate immigrants". At no point would UKIP encourage workers to hate employers for exploiting the oversupply of Labour, nor would they encourage immigrants into demanding the UK-person's "going rate" for the job.

They are pals of the employers, not the workers.

[mikey4444]

Sorry Zacs...should have been you !

[whiskeryron]

Certainly the new leader of the Labour Party & his limpet-like followers have done absolutely zilch for the working classes. With all the furore regarding the tremendous inflow of immigrants I would have thought they would have fought tooth & nail to stem the flow & therefore to encourage the Brits to vote for exit from the EU. All the immigrants are settling in working class areas & causing misery for the inhabitants wth regard to waiting times at doctors surgeries & of course filling school places & creating havoc with hosing lists etc. How many of our ruling classes have immigrants in the areas where they live ?

[jourdain2]

The Referendum united traditional Labour voters and middle-Britain. I suggest that a new party could form - how about U.K.P.P. - the UK People's Party?

[Old_Geezer]

I'd not know how they are using the word. I take it at face value but you'd have to ask the user.