Short Shrift For Nicola Sturgeon

[Khandro]

Will she now perhaps pipe down?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/29/nicola-sturgeons-hopes-of-keeping-scotland-in-eu-dashed-by-spani/

[Old_Geezer]

Everyone in the UK could have told her that.
(Probably everyone in the EU for that matter.)

[naomi24]

//Mariano Rajoy told a news conference that the Scottish Government “does not have the competence” to negotiate with the European Union//

Ouch! Bet that stung!

[Old_Geezer]

I expect something was lost in the translation ;-)

[naomi24]

Haaa! I imagine plenty was lost in translation. :o)

[DTCwordfan]

Not that the Telegraph is bias or anything.......

[Baldric]

Oh Dear, what a shame for Wee Jimmy and after going all that way as well.

[ToraToraTora]

as OG says, she is probably the only person in the UK that believes her own claptrap. She'd do well to stick with the UK and join us in prosperity outside the EU disaster area.

[jim360]

Not totally surprising since the Spanish have a Catalonian independence claim they tend to want to keep under control. It's generally expected that Scottish independence would bring fresh attention to this.

[douglas9401]

"Will she now perhaps pipe down?"

I don't know how much coverage of Scottish political life reaches your neck of the woods, Khandro, but those exposed daily know the answer is a straight "NO"

[naomi24]

If the Telegraph is biased, try the BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36656980

... or the Guardian perhaps.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/29/nicola-sturgeon-scotland-plea-eu-leaders-sympathy-little-hope

[ToraToraTora]

fair enough jim but Scotland don't want independence they "may" want to leave the UK and join the EU, if they can get in, that's far from independence.

[mushroom25]

the BBC link says:-

//Mr Juncker said: "Scotland won the right to be heard in Brussels so I will listen carefully to what the first minister will tell me.....//

which implies that her overtures aren't being dismissed out of hand.

[naomi24]

.... but he also said, "But we don't have the intention, neither Donald Tusk nor myself, to interfere in an inner British process that is not our duty and this is not our job."

Perhaps he was just being polite.

[jim360]

I think TTT there are many people living here who, while not jumping aboard the independence train just yet, are waiting to see what direction the rest of the UK goes in over the coming negotiations.

As to whether independence is possible within the EU or not, I think it is, and you just have a warped definition of "freedom". Again, we're risking rehashing old arguments and I don't want to go too far in that direction, but if the rest of the UK swings further to the right and drags Scotland with it that wouldn't be totally independent either.

[anotheoldgit]

/// Will she now perhaps pipe down? ///

I very much doubt it, seeing that her party are fighting to become the official opposition.

See my thread above.

[ToraToraTora]

How can anything be independent jim if it is ruled from outside?

[Old_Geezer]

Oh come on AOG. That's just Nicola, upset from the EU rejection, trying to have a laugh to cheer herself up.