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Now, Who's Fault Is All This?
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https:/ /www.th eguardi an.com/ uk-news /2016/j ul/28/m an-comp lains-a fter-po lice-pl ace-spi t-hood- over-he ad-duri ng-arre st-lond on-brid ge
1/ The young man resisting arrest?
2/ Overzealous police officers, trying to rescue a damsel in distress?
3/ An ungrateful damsel?
Or should the police officers have stood back and see how serious the argument got between a young man and his girlfriend.
1/ The young man resisting arrest?
2/ Overzealous police officers, trying to rescue a damsel in distress?
3/ An ungrateful damsel?
Or should the police officers have stood back and see how serious the argument got between a young man and his girlfriend.
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Since when has having an argument in a public place been an arrestable offence?
Pending a video showing how the incident escalated from a casual "Excuse me, miss, but is this guy bothering you?" to a 4-officer, bundle the guy to the floor incident, I'd file this under (2), in your OP.
The article says he asked repeatedly what he was being arrested for but got no reply.
The video shows some conversation between him and the policeman who keeps pressing his head to the floor (in the video Tambo found) but the exchange is rendered inaudible because of the constant shouting by the girlfriend.
Article goes on to say he was put in a cell, in Islington but, later, released *without charge*.
Every chance his complaint will stand up.
Whatever was spat at 1:40 in Tambo's link, it moved too fast to be seen in mid flight and you cannot see where it landed on the officer. If real, I dare say there'll be a sample in an evidence bag…
Since when has having an argument in a public place been an arrestable offence?
Pending a video showing how the incident escalated from a casual "Excuse me, miss, but is this guy bothering you?" to a 4-officer, bundle the guy to the floor incident, I'd file this under (2), in your OP.
The article says he asked repeatedly what he was being arrested for but got no reply.
The video shows some conversation between him and the policeman who keeps pressing his head to the floor (in the video Tambo found) but the exchange is rendered inaudible because of the constant shouting by the girlfriend.
Article goes on to say he was put in a cell, in Islington but, later, released *without charge*.
Every chance his complaint will stand up.
Whatever was spat at 1:40 in Tambo's link, it moved too fast to be seen in mid flight and you cannot see where it landed on the officer. If real, I dare say there'll be a sample in an evidence bag…
Since when has having an argument in a public place been an arrestable offence?
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Section 5, Public Order Act
A person is guilty of an offence if he—
(a)uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,
within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby.
It's exercised widely and extensively by most Bobbies when somone is 'kicking off' and ignores requests to moderate their behaviour and/or language.
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Section 5, Public Order Act
A person is guilty of an offence if he—
(a)uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,
within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby.
It's exercised widely and extensively by most Bobbies when somone is 'kicking off' and ignores requests to moderate their behaviour and/or language.
'Every chance his complaint will stand up'. I doubt that very much.
Guardian. “The incident occurred shortly after 11.30pm when officers intervened in an argument between a man and a woman. The man then became aggressive towards the officers, at which point he was arrested.
The officers were acting lawfully in the execution of their duty when they intervened in the initial incident and then used lawful and reasonable force to arrest and detain him when he became aggressive (as seen in the video clip).
The offender accepted a formal caution thereby admitting liability so the complaint is pretty much void, although that wouldn't stop the racially biased IPCC taking it on only later to realise it was a waste of time and money.
Guardian. “The incident occurred shortly after 11.30pm when officers intervened in an argument between a man and a woman. The man then became aggressive towards the officers, at which point he was arrested.
The officers were acting lawfully in the execution of their duty when they intervened in the initial incident and then used lawful and reasonable force to arrest and detain him when he became aggressive (as seen in the video clip).
The offender accepted a formal caution thereby admitting liability so the complaint is pretty much void, although that wouldn't stop the racially biased IPCC taking it on only later to realise it was a waste of time and money.
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