Daily Telegraph General Knowledge (Gk) 12641 Saturday August 20Th 2016

[jeremykayp]

Help, please. 19a Archaic or old-fashioned name for the brassicas such as cabbage, kale varieties, greens, turnips etc. (5) C?L?S. 25d Act or practice of deceiving people. (8) K?D?L?G?. 60a Latest novel by Jilly Cooper. (5) ?O?N?. Thanks in advance for any help.

[sandyRoe]

Kales?
Kidology

[sandyRoe]

ignore kales, it's in the clue.

[Lie-in King]

19a Coles
25d Kidology
60a Mount

[jeremykayp]

Thanks, I can have a glass of wine now!

[dannyk13]

Cales
Kidology
Mount

[Lie-in King]

Danny - I can't see 'cAles' as a definition, have you a pointer please?

[jeremykayp]

Lie-in King is correct it is COLES I looked it up.

[dannyk13]

http://www.wordplays.com/crossword-solver/archaic-name-for-brassica

[Mamyalynne]

Wordplays gets crossword answers wrong all the time as do some other sites.

[Lie-in King]

Thanks Danny, but I'd rather a dictionary definition?

[jeremykayp]

So you are both right, hooray!!!

[dannyk13]

I have seen cole in the dictionary which indeed gives it as brassica but does not give it as an 'archaic' term.

[Lie-in King]

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/cole

[dannyk13]

I will accept that. Out with the Tipp-Ex

[dannyk13]

www.gardenherbs.org/simples/cabbage.htm Kohl rabi, from caulo-rapum, cabbage turnip, is a name given to the Brassica oleracea. ... He imported the Cabbage (Cale) from Cadiz (Cales)
Just to add to the confusion.

[Lie-in King]

Glad it's sorted :-)

[dannyk13]

:-)

[Cartesian]

I hope you all settled for cales

[Lie-in King]

Erm...no.

[Mamyalynne]

Not without a dictionary definition, no - stuck with Coles.