To The Doubters A Few Weeks Back

[TWR]

Our Cliff, all charges dropped, would you be happy with this result, I would not, I would want the accusers named.

[ummmm]

I think it was to me, Andy.

[hc4361]

There has been speculation about Cliff for decades. Those that believe he is a wrong un will carry on believing that whatever.

[Barmaid]

Just for you ummmm

I cannot agree with his accusers being named. No one knows why there were no charges. I DO agree they should be prosecuted if it was entirely malicious (and there have been such prosecutions in the past) and thus named. However, absent any maliciousness the whole matter is best just forgotton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tuAkdlLhTE

[ummmm]

HaHa...I quite like that song :-)

[anneasquith]

I agree " mud sticks"" .

[hereIam]

So do I and this will probably haunt him for the rest of his life.

[Islay]

It shouldn't but mud does stick look at poor Mathew Kelly!!

[ummmm]

What about Matthew Kelly? He's still working.

[mccfluff]

what happened to Matthew Kelly?

i don't agree accusers should be names, unless it was malicious in which case they should be prosecuted

abuse is horrible with so many layers to it, pain, fear, shame and then to add public scrutiny on top of everything else.... accusers should have their right to privacy.

[andy-hughes]

ummmm - //What about Matthew Kelly? He's still working. //

He is - but not in prime time television.

[ummmm]

His prime time days were long gone before he was accused.

[ummmm]

Actually...I don't even know what he's been in except That's Life.

[mccfluff]

i'm sure i saw him being interviewed - recently as in last couple of weeks - and he was talking about the theatre work he had been doing and some new tv thing he was on to promote

i'm going to have to look this up now, can't for the life of me remember what happened

[jackthehat]

Matthew Kelly has returned to his acting roots and is doing very well there.

All it takes for Mud not to 'stick' is for those who think along those lines not to do so.......I was entertained by Old Mr. Turveydrop in Bleak House, I didn't think "There's that Matthew Kelly bloke....he was lucky to get away with it....".

[mccfluff]

blimey.. i'd totally forgotten about that

[HansUrbancka]

If I was asked to say whom I support in this thread I think in all honesty it would be ummmm, who must have gone through a lot of mental torture.

Hans.

[ummmm]

Not really, Hans, when my mum found out she beat him up and that was closure for me.

My mum is a loving, kind, gentle woman....but can punch like a man. I don't even have memories of her raising her voice so seeing her react to him the way she did confirmed in my young brain how bad he was and how protective she was.

I don't think it's affected my life, my mum made sure of that, as did my dad. Some people aren't so lucky.

[douglas9401]

///////////If your response is to Douglas's pithy observation - I wouldn't bother.

He posts these little bon mots from time to time, they don't mean anything, and are best ignored. ////////////

I'll leave it to otherth to dethide who talks pith. Time that high horse was fed and watered.

[naomi24]

Ummmm, you were a child. The people who are making these accusations aren’t children. They cannot support their claims and they should be named.

Douglas, I’ve dethided.