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Should Trump's State Visit Be Cancelled?
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/// Petition says Trump should not be invited to the UK on a state visit to avoid embarrassing the Queen ///
This is rich coming from those who with half the chance get rid of our Monarchy.
Interesting to see that Leftie Gary Lineker has indoctrinated his two sons to follow in his footsteps.
/// Petition says Trump should not be invited to the UK on a state visit to avoid embarrassing the Queen ///
This is rich coming from those who with half the chance get rid of our Monarchy.
Interesting to see that Leftie Gary Lineker has indoctrinated his two sons to follow in his footsteps.
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Trump is doing what the American people elected him to do. He is keeping his election promises. I don't understand the outrage. Equally, Erdogan is doing what he was elected to do. It is not our business - except for making our disagreement visible, if that is how we feel. I've answered on the other thread that this is about States and not individuals. ER is more than capable of taming Trump by overawing him and in doing so she will buy our country his respect, to all our benefit. In an uncertain world this is important.
Of course he should pay a state visit. Ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Obama banned Iraquis from the US and how much was that publicised?
Of course he should pay a state visit. Ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Obama banned Iraquis from the US and how much was that publicised?
Here is how Steve Bell saw the visit yesterday !
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AOG - //Interesting to see that Leftie Gary Lineker has indoctrinated his two sons to follow in his footsteps. //
Why do you presume that because Mr Lineker is a 'leftie' as you so delicately put it, that he must have 'indoctrinated' his sons?
Leaving aside the presumptions that Mr Lineker is a 'leftie', is 'indoctrination' purely the preserve of the left? I somehow doubt it!
Maybe you should do Mr Lineker's sons the courtesy of assuming that, as men in their twenties, they have made their own minds up about their political affiliations, and that they have not been 'indoctrinated' at all.
Why do you presume that because Mr Lineker is a 'leftie' as you so delicately put it, that he must have 'indoctrinated' his sons?
Leaving aside the presumptions that Mr Lineker is a 'leftie', is 'indoctrination' purely the preserve of the left? I somehow doubt it!
Maybe you should do Mr Lineker's sons the courtesy of assuming that, as men in their twenties, they have made their own minds up about their political affiliations, and that they have not been 'indoctrinated' at all.
paddywak - //So 1.5 million people have signed a petition against Trumps visit,but what about the millions who haven't signed because they agree with Donald? //
That presupposes that people who didn't sign, didn't sign because they agree with the policy.
That's a seriously dodgy conclusion.
It leaves out all the people who, like me, don't agree with the policy but have opted not to sign, and far more importantly, the millions of people who collectively don't sign petitions, have not had access to sign, or - and this is the millions-majority - don't care what President Trump, or any other politician, does or doesn't do.
So you cannot presume non-signature to be tacit agreement, it is patently not.
That presupposes that people who didn't sign, didn't sign because they agree with the policy.
That's a seriously dodgy conclusion.
It leaves out all the people who, like me, don't agree with the policy but have opted not to sign, and far more importantly, the millions of people who collectively don't sign petitions, have not had access to sign, or - and this is the millions-majority - don't care what President Trump, or any other politician, does or doesn't do.
So you cannot presume non-signature to be tacit agreement, it is patently not.
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