Border Control Too Controlling?

[pastafreak]

It's getting a bit much....

First,Muhammad Ali's son...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/25/muhammad-ali-son-detained-questioned-us-border-control

A former PM of Norway...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/03/former-norway-pm-bondevik-held-washington-dulles-airport-2014-visit-iran

And a well known Australian children's author on her 117th visit to the US...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/25/australian-childrens-author-mem-fox-detained-by-us-border-control-i-sobbed-like-a-baby

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// TWR....should we really be stopping every black Britain, with a British passport, when they return to this country ? ///

Who apart from you mentioned Black British?

[Peter Pedant]

// Trumps idea of 'protection' was found to be illegal.//

and by all his accounts - he STILL doesnt understand why ....

I liked his exclusion of the Beeb from his news conferences on the grounds of the first amendment ( free speech )

[mikey4444]

BA for pastafreak !

[Peter Pedant]

// /// TWR....should we really be stopping every black Britain, with a British passport, when they return to this country ? ///

hey ! as someone with British afro caribbean relations - no of course not
what is wrong with you ?

[Zacs-Master]

Indeed PP. No sign of his attempting it a second time despite his 'as early as Monday, Tuesday next week' comment, which was about a month ago.

[Peter Pedant]

all the AB posters who were greeted and streeted by US of A immigration are all white arent they ?

sorry to play the color card so early

[naomi24]

Peter Pedant, // I would have thought their computers ( erm like wiki) may know who a norwegian prime minister was//

Don’t know about the Norwegian Prime Minister, but bearing in mind my post at 10:55 perhaps their computers did bleep when Mohamed Ali’s son arrived. Who knows why they stopped him?

I wish you lot would stop the playground spat and the childish reporting.

[-Talbot-]

mikey4444
BA for pastafreak !



Do pay attention, mikey ...

[anotheoldgit]

pastafreak

/// There's protection...and then there is also bullying,intimidation and embarrassment for those who are entering legally. ///

Sometimes some have to suffer a little intimidation and embarrassment, in the process of finding out those who are entering legally and those who are not.

Yet again the majority suffering for the minority.

[hereIam]

How come people are being stopped, I thought Trump had been overruled on this ??

[EDDIE51]

The ban has been overruled, but Border Control is still under orders to enforce tighter security and increase 'vetting'.

[hereIam]

I see. Surely it is right in this day and age to enforce stricter controls ?

[EDDIE51]

Yes it is but holding up someone who was on their 117th visit to the USA and a Norwegian Diplomatic Passport holder is way 'over the top'. It would be obvious from a glance at the passports that these were not a threat!

[hereIam]

But is that down to Trump?

[EDDIE51]

It was Trump who issued the order to tighten security. So they are just doing what they were told.

[zebo]

What's the role of the ESTAs in all this? Surely they are their to weed out undesirables before they travel. On our last trip we had a potential problem at check in, we were asked for copies of our ESTAs, which we've never had, and there was a nervous few minutes when she went behind the scenes to check it. That was in the UK before we even joined a transatlantic flight! As far as TSA go we've only had positive experiences.

[jno]

they cancelled my Esta while I was abroad (and planning to go to the USA before returning to the UK). That had me panicking, because there was nobody to ask about it; they'd all gone home for the weekend. Then they emailed again to say they'd changed their minds. Crazy.

[237SJ]

Personally, I think that every little incident with US border control is making it into the news and in reality, it is nothing to do with Trump. I know airline crew who go into the States and get hauled aside because their name is the same as someone on a list of known suspects. This has been the case since 9/11. The silly thing is that after being interrogated in a side room at Immigration and being found to OK, the same thing happens the next time they go into the States and the next time.