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Ukip Wiped Out?
Gains for the conservatives from Labour but UKIP lose all their seats.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Of course Le Pen is FN. She stood down temporarily in an attempt to con voters but she'll be back there after Sunday. I see she is now the subject of a second police investigation as Macron is suing her
Yes UKIP are done for. But the PM is siundung more like Farage every day. As soon as the Tories have sucked the carcase dry they'll start sounding like the lib dems again
Yes UKIP are done for. But the PM is siundung more like Farage every day. As soon as the Tories have sucked the carcase dry they'll start sounding like the lib dems again
TTT....as a REMAIN voter, why would I want to give any support to an organisation that did its best to rabble-rouse enough, to persuade some people to want to leave ?
I see nothing to celebrate at all. I am wedded to the fact that we are leaving the EU, and as a democrat, I respect the will of the people, but I still haven't changed my mind on the issue, nor will I.
I see nothing to celebrate at all. I am wedded to the fact that we are leaving the EU, and as a democrat, I respect the will of the people, but I still haven't changed my mind on the issue, nor will I.
I dare say that Ukip's role in all this will be the subject of many theses to come. As has been pointed out, though, there's also the story of the collapse of Labour in Scotland, and the Lib Dems everywhere, both of which contributed to the Tory's majority. For sure, Cameron may have offered the referendum primarily because he was scared of Ukip -- or, more likely, of the Tory right deserting in their droves to join Ukip -- but he still only had the opportunity because anti-Tory Lib Dem supporters/protest voters deserted that party as well.
Politics is a messy business and I don't think it's as clear cut as Ukip's rise directly leading to the Leave vote. Still, they must have some credit (or blame?) for getting Brexit. But it's all indirect and now they are being brutally exposed as nothing but another "protest vote" party.
All of which feels rather ominous for the coming election. Taking Electoral calculus seriously, right now the Tories are heading for a strong majority. If Ukip's vote continues to flood back to the Tories, it'll just get stronger still of course -- the current Ukip vote share (predicted) being difference between majorities of around 150 and around 250.
Of course, as pointed out by many, local election voting patterns and general election patterns are different, even when only five weeks apart, but I think Tories could be forgiven for feeling hugely optimistic about the General Election after yesterday's results.
Politics is a messy business and I don't think it's as clear cut as Ukip's rise directly leading to the Leave vote. Still, they must have some credit (or blame?) for getting Brexit. But it's all indirect and now they are being brutally exposed as nothing but another "protest vote" party.
All of which feels rather ominous for the coming election. Taking Electoral calculus seriously, right now the Tories are heading for a strong majority. If Ukip's vote continues to flood back to the Tories, it'll just get stronger still of course -- the current Ukip vote share (predicted) being difference between majorities of around 150 and around 250.
Of course, as pointed out by many, local election voting patterns and general election patterns are different, even when only five weeks apart, but I think Tories could be forgiven for feeling hugely optimistic about the General Election after yesterday's results.
Not surprised in the least.
When you are a one policy party and the policy ison the way you don't have much to offer.
It is a pity but hopefully they might (haha) get a couple at the general. It is the only Party not putting obstacles in the way of Brexit.
Labour want to pay through the nose for a eu favoured trade deal and spend money we don't have and won't be able to generate because of their stupidity.
When you are a one policy party and the policy ison the way you don't have much to offer.
It is a pity but hopefully they might (haha) get a couple at the general. It is the only Party not putting obstacles in the way of Brexit.
Labour want to pay through the nose for a eu favoured trade deal and spend money we don't have and won't be able to generate because of their stupidity.
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