Ian Brady

[redvanman]

Ian Brady the moors murders put is ashes down the sewer were he belongs

[Tilly2]

I agree with Ivor. It does matter, albeit on a symbolic level.

[anneasquith]

It may not matter to us , but our relatives were not murdered and buried at that location .

[kvalidir]

He'd be jumping with joy about all this, still pulling everyone's strings even after death. Just ignore him, forget him, he's gone and where his miserable ashes are scattered doesn't matter. He wanted to die, so keeping him alive was a far greater punishment for someone like him so we did our best to avenge his wrongdoing and punish him now just forget him, leave him no legacy and you honour his victims far more than kicking up the fuss he so clearly wanted.

[Prudie]

I think it matters a lot - if it didn't then why do people make great journeys and effort to scatter ashes in specific places? His ashes should go out with the cremation sweepings.

[Sqad]

Prudie

" if it didn't then why do people make great journeys and effort to scatter ashes in specific places?"
It beats me........ashes....and probably not those of the diseased.
Still, if the survivors feel it is important to them......then why not?
But Saddleworth Moor? it's a huge place...ashes will be miles away in half an hour.
But......I suppose you are correct.....

[Islay]

I don't this has ever happened before but I agree with Sqad!
Does it matter where his ashes are scattered, Brady was all about the power he held and still holds.
Scatter his ashes in a car park at the edge of the moor, or in the toilet block!! At the end of the day it is his ashes not him they will blow away in wind and it will mean nothing!

[jno]

agree with Sqad and Islay. His ashes aren't him. They're nothing. People will be demanding vengeance on his toenail clippings next. The families of his victims must deal with it as they can, but others should just leave him to the history books.

[murraymints]

well I think they should be flushed down the loo at the crem....who is going to claim them anyway ??

[Bertrum]

Mix them in with concrete for use in the foundations of an offshore wind turbine

[douglas9401]

If the memories don't matter we can go ahead and cancel 'we are a grandmother's' statue on the green then, and pull down all the others while we're at it.

Can't it be seen how perverse it would be for the last resting place of a mass murderer to be beside where the results of his actions were and are yet to be found?

[emmie]

flushed down the bog where he belongs.

[mikey4444]

I have read the Guardians extensive obituary on Ian Brady this morning.

There has been a discussion on here about whether Brady was mad or not. According to the obituary, in 1985, partly due to intervention of Lord Longford, Brady was diagnosed as a psychopath and sent to Broadmoor.

A mental health tribunal was set up in 2013, due to Brady's insistence that he be moved from Broadmoor, to a normal prison,. That Tribunal upheld the experts view that Brady was psychotic, paranoid, and had a severe narcissistic personality.

Now, I don't know whether that makes him"mad" in the eye of medicine, but as far as I an concerned, its mad enough for me.

[Prudie]

well I agree with Douglas! to some people it's a very meaningful event to scatter ashes. For him to be spread about where his victims lay is perverse in the extreme.

[Sqad]

Tell me...what are the chances that his ashes will lie next to the bodies of his victims.........nil.

[Eleena]

It doesn't matter sqad, the idea is totally disrespectful to all his victims and their families.

[andy-hughes]

Brady's possessions will go to Doctor Allen Keightley a religious studies lecturer who has been Brady's friend and confidante for a number of years - he is Brady's heir in lieu of any living relatives.

I am unsure whether Brady communicated to Doctor Keightley any wishes for disposal of his ashes - I suspect he must have for the coroner to have specifically commented about it.

I am unsure if there is any law preventing Brady's wishes being carried out, or if Doctor Keightley intends to do so - perhaps that will be made clear in the next few days.