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Corbyns Rent A Mob.
I see Corbyns rent a mob the social worker turned up threatening innocent motorists, and the sign saying "No trampolines, No water cannons, no rescue helicopters" did she seriously expect people to jump on a trampoline, there were plenty of fire fighters using hoses, and the down draft of a helicopter would have made things worse.
And now we have plans to overthrow the government "by any means"
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I wonder how many peoples property they will destroy.
I was going to donate, but not whilst the rent a mob and this lot are involved I wont be giving a penny.
Dave.
And now we have plans to overthrow the government "by any means"
https:/
I wonder how many peoples property they will destroy.
I was going to donate, but not whilst the rent a mob and this lot are involved I wont be giving a penny.
Dave.
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It saddens me that such a disaster should be used for political ends, but that is typical of the anarchist left and one more good reason why Corbyn should be kept out.
20:43 Sat 17th Jun 2017
//Mushroom25 and others, Corbyn now insists that the government DOES have the power to seize empty homes to rehouse people! http://
Eddie, just because Mr corbyn insists, doesn’t mean that it can be done. Indeed Mr Corbyn knows that there is no legal framework currently extant that would allow appropriation, because here he is telling the guardian that the government needs to consider emergency legislation. https:/
Emergency legislation – if enacted – would permit it. But not yet. It would still need to be passed by parliament, and that’s by no means certain. This type of law has never been used in peacetime and would be incredibly controversial.
Eddie, just because Mr corbyn insists, doesn’t mean that it can be done. Indeed Mr Corbyn knows that there is no legal framework currently extant that would allow appropriation, because here he is telling the guardian that the government needs to consider emergency legislation. https:/
Emergency legislation – if enacted – would permit it. But not yet. It would still need to be passed by parliament, and that’s by no means certain. This type of law has never been used in peacetime and would be incredibly controversial.
Eddie, //Corbyn now insists that the government DOES have the power to seize empty homes to rehouse people! The man gets better by the hour in my eyes!//
Of course he does because his politics are typical of the greed and the envy of the ‘everything for nothing’ mentality. Despite your claims that you possess a degree in Chemistry and have the experience of an astonishingly multi-faceted international career, you’ve ended up with absolutely nothing, and so are more than happy to see the fruits of other people’s labour shamelessly stolen from them. Quite sickening - all of it.
Of course he does because his politics are typical of the greed and the envy of the ‘everything for nothing’ mentality. Despite your claims that you possess a degree in Chemistry and have the experience of an astonishingly multi-faceted international career, you’ve ended up with absolutely nothing, and so are more than happy to see the fruits of other people’s labour shamelessly stolen from them. Quite sickening - all of it.
// If all the hundreds of other similar tower blocks in the UK have to be demolished as I think will happen…..//
whilst that might be seen as desirable in the present climate, hard practicality will dictate otherwise – at least for the time being. An architect friend tells me that suspect cladding on building exteriors is easily removed or substituted wherever it’s been fitted, and retro-fits of sprinklers – whilst disruptive in the short term – would provide a medium term economic breathing space to defray the enormous expenditure required for wholesale rebuilds all at once.
whilst that might be seen as desirable in the present climate, hard practicality will dictate otherwise – at least for the time being. An architect friend tells me that suspect cladding on building exteriors is easily removed or substituted wherever it’s been fitted, and retro-fits of sprinklers – whilst disruptive in the short term – would provide a medium term economic breathing space to defray the enormous expenditure required for wholesale rebuilds all at once.
I have no objection whatsoever to people buying their own home / homes or spending £multi millions on them . What I do object to is people who buy property just as an investment and intentionally keep it empty to push the demand and the price up. That is just profiteering !
Compulsory purchase of such property is not 'shamelessly stealing the fruits of their labour' They receive the fair market value .
Naomi 'spinning' yet again!
Compulsory purchase of such property is not 'shamelessly stealing the fruits of their labour' They receive the fair market value .
Naomi 'spinning' yet again!
naomi, I agree that I have not made a lot of money in my career, I went into the wrong profession for that. I would have made a lot more as a banker or financial industry graduate. Bringing up 5 children has not helped on the money side either!
But I can genuinely say that I have really enjoyed every single job I have ever been in ( even the post retirement pot washing!) , my entire working life has been more like a paid 50 year holiday than a job.
My time in Zambia was the highlight but it has all been good!
How many others can truthfully say that?
But I can genuinely say that I have really enjoyed every single job I have ever been in ( even the post retirement pot washing!) , my entire working life has been more like a paid 50 year holiday than a job.
My time in Zambia was the highlight but it has all been good!
How many others can truthfully say that?
// my entire working life has been more like a paid 50 year holiday than a job. //
There it is in a nutshell really. The marxist maxim. Treat your job as a holiday, a 50 year long holiday with expectations of a luxurious retirement and money no object solutions. If they don't materialise, well it must be everybody else's attitude.
There it is in a nutshell really. The marxist maxim. Treat your job as a holiday, a 50 year long holiday with expectations of a luxurious retirement and money no object solutions. If they don't materialise, well it must be everybody else's attitude.
Togo I DID NOT say I treated my job as a holiday!!
In said that I had enjoyed my work so that it seemed more like a holiday than a job! I am now retired and on pension credit I do not expect or want 'luxury' . I have never expected 'money no object solutions' I do not see where you get that from.
In fact in Zambia we had virtually no foreign exchange available to import anything and we had to rely on our own resources , make do and mend was the order of the day.
As a genuine example we once applied for foreign exchange to import Nuts,Bolts and 'fish plates' for the company railway line. (fish plates are the brackets that join two lengths of rail together)
We got a reply 3 months later Bolts, are approved, nuts are grown in Zambia and Fish plates are a Luxury item !
We reapplied but asked for 'railway line connection brackets and fittings' instead, it was approved!
In said that I had enjoyed my work so that it seemed more like a holiday than a job! I am now retired and on pension credit I do not expect or want 'luxury' . I have never expected 'money no object solutions' I do not see where you get that from.
In fact in Zambia we had virtually no foreign exchange available to import anything and we had to rely on our own resources , make do and mend was the order of the day.
As a genuine example we once applied for foreign exchange to import Nuts,Bolts and 'fish plates' for the company railway line. (fish plates are the brackets that join two lengths of rail together)
We got a reply 3 months later Bolts, are approved, nuts are grown in Zambia and Fish plates are a Luxury item !
We reapplied but asked for 'railway line connection brackets and fittings' instead, it was approved!
Eddie, //Bringing up 5 children has not helped on the money side either!//
How dare you expect other people to relinquish what they’ve worked for because of the choices YOU made? Forget it, chum! Your life, your responsibility – your kids, your responsibility! I have no objection whatsoever to helping to fund the elderly and the sick but the notion that people can go through life doing exactly as they please and expecting the rest of us to work to enable them to do that truly makes me sick.
How dare you expect other people to relinquish what they’ve worked for because of the choices YOU made? Forget it, chum! Your life, your responsibility – your kids, your responsibility! I have no objection whatsoever to helping to fund the elderly and the sick but the notion that people can go through life doing exactly as they please and expecting the rest of us to work to enable them to do that truly makes me sick.
You know what, I recon that by they time the government has compulsory purchased all these luxury houses and flats they will have spent more than recladding and updating fire systems would have cost. And I should think it would be quicker as well. Can you imagine ANYONE let alone the rich and super rich letting that get past the law courts without a lengthy fight!??
Naomi, in my younger days I rented a room in a shared house and one of the other tenants had three degrees (no singing please) but by choice worked as a volunteer and refused to get a paid job.
Brains has no baring on when people think the country or world owes them a living.
Sometimes the J.A.Ms are that way through choice.
Brains has no baring on when people think the country or world owes them a living.
Sometimes the J.A.Ms are that way through choice.
Apologies, Webbo, I'm off piste with the OP but have got caught up in the latest posts.
I've been without a home and without a job in my life. (An experience very few on AB share. I wish it on none of you. )
It never occurred to me that these misfortunes were the result of some external enemy who was oppressing me or some societal injustice. Just bad luck. Nor did I ever take a begging bowl or queue up in the Job Centre.
The misfortune can be addressed in one of two ways depending on moral attitude:
Parasite: Hey, tax-payer, give me a house and pay for my kids because I can't be bothered.
Honest man: go out and get a job.
I've been without a home and without a job in my life. (An experience very few on AB share. I wish it on none of you. )
It never occurred to me that these misfortunes were the result of some external enemy who was oppressing me or some societal injustice. Just bad luck. Nor did I ever take a begging bowl or queue up in the Job Centre.
The misfortune can be addressed in one of two ways depending on moral attitude:
Parasite: Hey, tax-payer, give me a house and pay for my kids because I can't be bothered.
Honest man: go out and get a job.
naomi you are at it again!
Your post at 23.31 could not be more wrong or incorrect!
How & Where did I 'expect others to relinquish what they had worked for due to the choices I had made?? '
I was saying that buying up housing specifically leave it empty to increase your profit was wrong!
I know you do not agree with me , and you have a right to your view, but do not insult me by posting things I did not say,imply or intend!
Your post at 23.31 could not be more wrong or incorrect!
How & Where did I 'expect others to relinquish what they had worked for due to the choices I had made?? '
I was saying that buying up housing specifically leave it empty to increase your profit was wrong!
I know you do not agree with me , and you have a right to your view, but do not insult me by posting things I did not say,imply or intend!
Eddie, Nothing in my posts emanate from something you haven't claimed or implied, but that aside, Mr Corbyn hasn’t suggested ‘buying’ houses,– he said they should be ‘requisitioned’ - but let’s not worry about minor details like that. How dare anyone who has taken the trouble to work and invest in their future have assets? Let’s strip them all for the benefit of those who haven’t bothered. Great idea!
^ You are still missing the point! Almost certainly intentionally!
The point is NOT taking houses off people who have bought them for themselves or their family to live in or to rent out! It is about people ,almost all non UK residents , who buy up property specifically to keep it empty so that the housing crisis gets worse and they increase their profit! That is what I object to, I know it is legal but that does not stop it being wrong!
The point is NOT taking houses off people who have bought them for themselves or their family to live in or to rent out! It is about people ,almost all non UK residents , who buy up property specifically to keep it empty so that the housing crisis gets worse and they increase their profit! That is what I object to, I know it is legal but that does not stop it being wrong!
Eddie, we were talking about Corbyn’s proposal that empty properties be ‘requisitioned’ to house the victims of the tower block fire, but if you want to discuss a different subject like the rights and wrongs of foreigners buying property here and leaving it empty, sunny-dave has posted a thread where you might air your views.
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