Should The Death Penalty Be Reintroduced In Uk?

[willbewhatiwill]

I believe death penalty should not be reintroduced, as life imprisonment without the possibility of parole is as effective against murder as death penalty because:
• It is possible that death penalty can be carried on a prison who actually did not commit the crime.
• A desperate murderer may try to avoid arrest by committing more murder to save himself/herself from facing the death penalty.
• life imprisonment without the possibility of parole is sufficient deterrent to murder.

As a person who has done a conversion course in Law for graduates (LLDip), I know that the intention (mens rea) for murder, under English Law, is ‘malice aforethought’ & the fixed penalty for murder is fixed at statutory live imprisonment. The medical condition of the victim is not an excuse to murder in Law – as the perpetrator ‘takes the victim as he found him’ (i.e. in good or poor health), hence a terminally ill person can be murdered.

There are different degrees of killing of a human being – from mercy killing, accident, self-defence, negligence, diminished responsibility, provocation, insanity, intentional killing to evil killing in aggravated circumstances. Hence the penalty for causing the death of a human being can range from community service (like ‘mercy killing’, genuine accidental death) to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.

[New Judge]

"I was merely pointing out that WHOLE LIFE SENTENCE is as effective as the DEATH PENALTY. "

Quite so. And you went on to suggest it was as an effective deterrent as the death penalty and used that as a reason to say that the death penalty should not be introduced. You can only suggest it as an effective deterrent if it is actually imposed (or is likely to be imposed). In the UK it is not so your comparison is specious. Please don't dig any a deeper hole 'cos it's getting late :-)

[willbewhatiwill]

New Judge stated, “you went on to suggest it [i.e. whole life sentences] was as an effective deterrent as the death penalty. You can only suggest it as an effective deterrent if it is actually imposed (or is likely to be imposed)”.

One can examine/debate (as done in Parliament before enacting new legislation) the efficacy of various options for sentencing various types of murder that can be imposed surely.

Hence it certainly is not my argument that is specious. Speak for yourself about specious arguments and ‘digging a deeper hole’. Goodnight.

[Garaman]

I would be against the reintroduction of the death penalty, mainly because I am not confident that convictions are reliable, but also because there is no evidence that it is the deterrent we might think it is. Furthermore, if it was reintroduced we would no doubt end up with a situation like America where condemned people would be on death row for years while they fought legal battles at our expense – apparently this means it costs more to execute a person in America than it does to keep them incarcerated for life.

[RobNorth]

Timothy John Evans

[THECORBYLOON]

WILL, you said, "This is because death penalty is not likely to be the only sentence for murder (as it is the case currently in the USA)" Not so according to this site, https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/arbitrariness which says less than 2% of murderers are sentenced to death in America. Only thirty-one of the states have the death penalty in the first place and the grounds for imposing it vary from state to state.

[willbewhatiwill]

THECORBYLOON stated, “WILL, you said, "This is because death penalty is not likely to be the only sentence for murder (as it is the case currently in the USA)… less than 2% of murderers are sentenced to death in America”

Yes, as I said, DEATH PENALTY should be compared to WHOLE LIFE IMPRISONMENT.

While life imprisonment with DIFFERENT LENGTH OF YEARS of tariffs for various types of murder COMPARED WITH MURDERS WITH VARIOUS YEARS of tariffs for murders in UK (& USA).

[THECORBYLOON]

Which mercy killer has received a community service order by the way?

[willbewhatiwill]

THECORBYLOON asked, “which mercy killer has received a community service order”?

Mercy killing can be classed as manslaughter e.g. due to stress – hence ‘diminished responsibility’. Sentence for manslaughter for mercy killings can vary widely. No actual case in mind.