Boris Has Let The Cat

[weecalf]

Has dear old Boris let the cat out of the bag He did not really say any thing which May could have looked like having a problem with . Only if you think about it ,telling the public that millions would be available after Brexit .Now would the T May government want the public knowin money was available in case they had any idea of getting any of it to spend on the health service .

[davegosling]

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2017/09/statistics-authority-delivers-polite-firm-smackdown-boris-johnson-over

[Old_Geezer]

We know that we will not any longer have a demand to pay into the EU, so £350M a week will no longer be scheduled to be paid each week, but if he did say it could all go to the NHS that's clearly wishful thinking. There will be grants we will wish to keep going that will come out of the saving first. And we already have control of the temporary rebate (eventually) so if that's to go to the NHS then they must be already receiving it. Generally speaking it seems Boris tended to simply state the already obvious, and the remainers are trying to make capital out if it.

[Davemano]

OG - exactly.

[Old_Geezer]

David is clearly just repeating remainer nonsense; which suggests he is one. He is simply causing confusion over Net and Gross. The gross figure is what we are asked to pay in. He's fiddling the figures by removing grants and rebate from it and trying to claim the result is the truth; but no one denies that some of the actual real saving will be used to continue existing subsidies. He's hoping a gullible public will lap it up and be deluded into thinking that the gross figure is wrong. It isn't.

[wolf63]

Is this what you are talking about?
http://tinyurl.com/yah5gsx3

[jourdain2]

Details don't really matter in this instance, do they? I think that this was written as a counterblast to the creeping influence of Hammond and other, last-ditch, Remainers in order to remind Mrs. May of the feeling in the country as expressed in the referendum and of the positive aspects of leaving the E.U..

No, I'm not naïve and he may have a future challenge in his eye, but right now he is trying to put steel into her backbone i.m.o..

[weecalf]

I'd call a new vote on leaving .Prior to vote have it set up that we leave in a week if vote says leave .If vote goes against leaving call an election where any one who was in government since last refer should not be allowed to hold cabinet office .We are beginning to look a laughing stock on the world stage .

[davegosling]

"I'd call a new vote on leaving"
What good would that do? We've already voted to leave.

"Prior to vote have it set up that we leave in a week if vote says leave"
That's not how things work! We have already invoked Article 50 - we now have two years of negotiations, after which we're out. We can't just make it up as we go along, no matter how much it might look like we are!

"If vote goes against leaving call an election where any one who was in government since last refer[sic] should not be allowed to hold cabinet office."
So, democracy when it suits you. Right-o!

"We are beginning to look a laughing stock on the world stage"
On that we are in total agreement. America must be absolutely loving us at the moment, as they are currently not the stupidest country in the world.

[Baldric]

///I'd call a new vote on leaving///

Idiot, what do you not understand about democracy?

[weecalf]

I understand .But if it's so simple why are the leave camp so scared of a new vote . Leave voters were duped .Knowing what they know now would they vote the same .Yes think the country deserves a second chance . Is democracy not being able to change your mind as well .

[Spicerack]

^Parody. (quite a good one, imo)

[baza]

As the remoaners are not happy lets have another vote, paper to read, "Do you want to live in a democracy", tick box yes or no.

[cassa333]

Weecraft I am a leave voter and YES I WOULD STILL VOTE LEAVE.

Is that loud enough for you.

I bet you there would be more leave voters now given the rhetoric coming from the EU.

It wasn't the wrong result, it was the right one. It was the right vote simply because the majority voted to leave. That is democracy in action.

We are not scared of another vote we just see no reason to a. Waste money on one b. waste time better spent negotiating with the rest of the world. c. Pander to sore losers.

Which part/s of the EU do you love so much that you would give up your rights to self determination? What do you see in Junkers vision of the EU that is worth giving up our country on a plate to them?

One poster only seemed to be able to say they wanted easier travel. A very poor reason if ever I heard one.

[Khandro]

"I'd call a new vote on leaving"

I think you might be in for a shock if you did, there's a lot of mind changing going on - not only James Dyson.

[gulliver1]

02.33 " Idiot " Who appointed you as judge and Jury then, Balders ?