Mmr Vaccine Push In Cardiff And Vale After Newport Measles Outbreak

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-40265419

We have discussed this issue of the MMR vaccine many times before, here on AB. But after so many outbreaks of measles here in South Wales, I am amazed that there are still so many kids who are not protected.

It appears that you can take some horses to water, but you still can't make them drink.

[Sqad]

Morning mikey...
Yes I too am amazed at the number of children still at risk, but of course one remembers the flawed research of Dr Andrew Wakefield linking the MMR vaccine with bowel problems and Autism. This work got through the medical script experts and astonishingly was published in the Lancet provoking many people , mothers mainly of coming to the surface and saying "I told you so" and persisting with this opinion against further studies repudiating his work.

[Prudie]

Well if you were mothers you wouldn't be quite so amazed. It's the cocktail of the 3 that worried me and I am one who refused this jab for my daughter.

[mikey4444]

Morning Sqad...just caught me before I leave for work !

I simply can't understand why some people chose to ignore medical advice and instead, believe someone who has now been struck off the medical register. The man is and was a quack and a charlatan.

Its completely counter-intuitive.

[ToraToraTora]

I know, stupid parents, happy to buy gawd knows what out of the boot of a car in a pub car park and inject their kids with it but don't want to "risk" the proper vaccine. Madness.

[jim360]

I suppose the debate between people who believe that MMR vaccines cause autism, and people who are right, will rage on for some time to come. But it's a terrible risk assessment to refuse the vaccine for your child, if nothing else. Measles is potentially fatal, responsible for well over half a million deaths annually in the 1990s; autism is not. Unfortunately that risk assessment is easily skewed in countries like the UK, where medical care is more than enough to prevent measles being fatal except very rarely, so it's easy to overlook the risk.

[woofgang]

I don’t think Tony Blair helped on this one declining to say whether or not he had vaccinated his son, while at the same time, his attitude was “Specialists know better than mothers” Now they may well do but there was little effort made to explain how they were so sure it would be safe and thalidomide was still a nasty memory.

[Sqad]

Jim

"Measles is potentially fatal, responsible for well over half a million deaths annually in the 1990s;"
Eh?....that must be world wide involving "underdeveloped " countries as in the UK one is looking at something like 100 deaths in that decade.However i do agree with the main content of your post and I think that the last death in the UK after the MMR was 2004 ( I think) i.e MMR has eradicated death from measles by eradicating measles itself.....in the vaccinated population.

[Peter Pedant]

and if you were a doctor you would say
madam your baby may die if you do not consent to this jab .....

wakefield was struck off whch rich americans didnt mind so much as his losing his funding ( for his Texan unit)

when I was visiting a fambly in Wales- the usual brown bread and sandals brigade - I looked at their kids and said - "there is measles in Manc and we have had one death - the first for fifty years, are these vaccinated ?"

and you know she went at me like I was some sort of baby killer and not the virus
and I went like " he died from measles and not from me!"
It was like the shower scene from Psycho

The doctors lost that one hands down
see Proodz post above

and so I think we are seeing congential rubella

the whole sorry story is here
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2010/01january/pages/mmr-vaccine-autism-scare-doctor.aspx

[ToraToraTora]

Ce?

[jim360]

Yes, annually worldwide sqad as you say. (If it were annually in the UK in 1990 I think we'd have heard about it!)

[Sqad]

LOL ^^^ certainly on AB Jim ;-)

[ummmm]

My sons primary school wouldn't let any children who were not vaccinated on any school trips.

Mine were all vaccinated but my son still got mumps. He didn't get it as bad as I remember having it but dread to think how many un-vaccinated children he could have been around.